#447342 - 04/08/0806:34 AMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: natasqi]
_khan_
old hand
Registered: 17/11/04
Loc: San Francisco, California, USA
Written by :deadkenndys1105
I don't like it when most people hoop. You need to be able to dance with it very well and most people can't.
The same can be said of "most people" who spin or practice any kind of prop manipulation. A lot of focus is on moves with the prop and not dance so much. Of course a lot depends on what you consider "dance" and "very well."
Although I contend that moving with the prop is itself a form of dance.
Having started with poi and then switched to hoop, I do think that it's harder learning to move with a hoop on you (not off) than it is learning to move with poi. Just learning to walk while hooping on your waist is a bit more of a challenge than walking while doing the 3-beat weave, for example. It just takes time though.
Written by :natasqi
The problem I have with hooping and dancing is I love dancing and you have to dance TO the music... where hoops spin at a particular frequency. So I have to decide whether I spin to the music, or I do awesome tricks, trying to ignore the music.
It really doesn't have to be either/or. Of course some of it depends on the size of hoop you're using (the larger the hoop the slower it will go 'round, whereas smaller = faster) and what kind of music you're hooping to.
I personally like mixing up the soundtrack when I hoop -- everything from slow piano-based ballads to psytrance to hip-hop and even country sometimes. Mixing it up like that really helps you figure out how to adjust your hooping to the music -- moreso than if you hooped to the same kind of music all the time.
Also, GothFrogette makes a good point re: off-body moves. I have found that breaks & reversals are a good mode of on-body hooping that you can use to match rhythm.
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#447345 - 06/08/0808:40 PMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: ElectricBlue]
GothFrogette
So charmingly heathen, your skin is like a teardrop on a popsickle.
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
ElectricBlue sorry for late reply on your vid, lol i need to find some dry grass to practice on, i have just got the step in to start but i am still finding that hooping below the hip, especialy around the knees, really hurts so i am trying to aork out other things to do that doesn't involve anything any lower than my bottom lol
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#447346 - 07/08/0811:45 AMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: GothFrogette]
ElectricBlue
Now with extra strawberries
Registered: 11/02/02
Loc: Canberra
Cool, sounds good. Do you have any existing knee problems that are causing the pain? Beacuse that dose sond pretty bad.
One thing i have found for general hooping to be kinder on the knees try and stand with your feet just inside sholder width, rather than close together of far apart.
My foot is pretty much better now so i'll see if i can make up a little video of some other cool starts that don't involve the knees.
#447347 - 07/08/0808:10 PMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: ElectricBlue]
GothFrogette
So charmingly heathen, your skin is like a teardrop on a popsickle.
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
yup i started ballet when i was three and when i was 14 i went up on my point shoes and my knees gave in and i couldn't walk for around six weeks, since then i have had so many problems, the latest being diagnosed with turned out hips. all the years of dancing and being turned out means that i have to be really carful and i'm going through tonnes of physio. i was gutted when it happened as i was due to join the royal ballet a few months later but got the "you can never do ballet again" talk from the doctor. knee problems also run in the family.
So yes i have to be very carful although i do have a nice walking stick and am in the process of wrapping another one in tape and i have some fantastic pain killers just incase
I have tried hooping with my knees together which is ok but have ound that without using a "power" knee i can not do anything with it.
to be honest it is not the end of the world lol so i tend not the frett about it, life is too short after all and i am happy adapting every thing i do so i do not hurt myself.
I'm glad your foot is better now and more vids would be great, no rush though, i am not going any where
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#447349 - 07/08/0810:12 PMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: ElectricBlue]
Pogo69
there's no charge for awesomeness... or attractiveness
Registered: 06/04/06
Loc: limbo
*chuckle*... george or malcolm should be reading this... sounds like the beginnings of a new photo comp...
pimped out medical paraphernalia...
knees are the most ridiculously badly designed joint; so many things that can and do go wrong with them. and there's almost no such thing as a person that's played any decent amount of sport and not had some kind of trouble with them.
too many years of football and tennis did mine in; but in my case, at nothing like the level of the royal ballet.
I digressed and almost forgot the purpose of this thread; speaking of which, I haven't touched a hoop in such a long time. perhaps uber will re-inspire me...? it did last time...
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#447350 - 08/08/0802:57 AMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: Pogo69]
GothFrogette
So charmingly heathen, your skin is like a teardrop on a popsickle.
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
oh the possabilities with all the different tapes, lol almost makes worth hurting yourself worth it, which i happen to do alot at the moment.
question for peeps, Which ways do you warm up before hooping or do you do a general warm up, or not bother?
i have been doing yoga for about six months now (recorded yoga TV) and have found it helps, i practice the plank for my inner core strength but do not do it as a warm up mainly as a time for me and me only (unless i am doing the yoga bugs with the kids)
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#447351 - 08/08/0810:12 AMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: GothFrogette]
_khan_
old hand
Registered: 17/11/04
Loc: San Francisco, California, USA
I have knee issues too. Not really sure how it came about...but even just running for the bus makes them hurt and feel like they're about to pop out. So I don't work on leg stuff hardly at all, it's definitely an undeveloped area in my hooping, but I decided pursuing it wasn't worth messing up my knees to the point that I couldn't hoop (or dance) at all. Never mind walking without pain.
Oh and I never ever run for the bus anymore.
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#447352 - 08/08/0812:25 PMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: _khan_]
ElectricBlue
Now with extra strawberries
Registered: 11/02/02
Loc: Canberra
Ooops I almost forgot.
Happy World Hoop Day everyone!!!!!
Any one going to world hoop day events? Unfortnatly it is a friday and i have to work so i wasn't able to organise any thing here. But i will be hooping at a cool gig in the city tonight. Yay!!!!
#868647 - 28/08/0804:29 AMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: ElectricBlue]
InnerSpin
Nothing is solid, its all spinning :-)
Registered: 28/08/08
Loc: Kent, Uk
Hello everyone on HOP hoop thread, I have been lurking for awhile (a year or so) and watching this thread grow. I know a few of you from other forums and from real life but I thought I'd join this lively space too :-) Now I'll have even less time for my real life.
I have been hula hooping for 2 and 3/4 years now and I love it so very much. I love to dance but it has taken awhile for me to integrate dance into my hooping. I of course have my own movement but feel pressured to point my toes, arch my back and meet the gaze of my audience with a smile (whether I feel like smiling or not).
Hooping has taught me many things about myself and life: some physical things, mental things and spiritual things. The most important lesson for me has been to stay true to my own experience as it is the only thing I have. This has given me a strong position from which I allow others to have theirs. There is no right or wrong way of doing it, that is just language. I think flow toys take us from this limited communication system and allow us to consciously grow and expand.
Anyway that's enough from me for now, I'm not know for my succinct communication abilities, see ya soon :-)
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#868742 - 28/08/0807:16 PMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: Skulduggery]
bender
still can't believe it's not butter
Registered: 14/11/01
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
A graduate from Melbourne's NICA school is starring hoop skillz in US and A! I caugt one of her shows when she was still studying and am pleased that NICA graduates are rippin it up overseas
Quote:
In a show called Desir Melbourne's Marawa Ibrahim, 26, specialises in hooping — as in twirling a hula hoop around the waist, and she can have a dozen or more orbiting her. In a just over a week she's become a magnet for what turns out to be an ardent community of hoop enthusiasts in America.
She's a multi-tasking dynamo and, in the show, she often spins hoops as she saunters around her domain, an ornate circular performance tent at the end of a pier in Lower Manhattan.
Marawa graduated from Melbourne's National Institute for Circus Arts in 2004, and now great reviews and sold-out performances have put her dangerously close to overnight sensation status.
"One main thing struck me about Marawa when I first saw her perform in a student production in Melbourne," says Ross Mollison, the Australian-born producer of Desir, and the main brains behind the late summer performance precinct that houses the show on the pier.
"It was that she was not only a gifted hoop artist, but she had this incredible stage presence — and that's not always a quality that is easy to radiate in the circus."
The eyelashes were still in place, accentuated with vivid green eyeliner when Marawa — she's prefers the Cher/Madonna single-word stage name — and I met recently in the open-air bar that's part of the performance complex straddling the East River.
"The inspiration was Josephine Baker, the African-American singer and performer who went to Paris and pretty much took the place by storm," Marawa said. "I mean, we use one of Josephine's signature numbers, Don't you Touch my Tomatoes, as a kind of theme song for her in the show.
"It's as suggestive as it sounds so I'm glad my dad isn't here to see it."
In fact, Marawa spends much of her time on the tiny round stage of the Spiegeltent in a replica of the scandalous "Banana Dress" that Baker performed in around 1926.
#868813 - 29/08/0809:05 AMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: bender]
InnerSpin
Nothing is solid, its all spinning :-)
Registered: 28/08/08
Loc: Kent, Uk
I have yet to see Marawa in person but I love what I have seen of her on youtube. Her reputation has preceded her at many festivals that I have been to. What I like is her sassy and smooth style.
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#868820 - 29/08/0811:20 AMRe: The Hop Hoop thread
[Re: InnerSpin]
bender
still can't believe it's not butter
Registered: 14/11/01
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
yeah, alot of technically proficient performers let their show down by simply not engaging the audience enough. This is where marawa's outsize stage personality shines.
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With most of the routines that I find from circus/gymnastics etc. I'm wondering what kind of hoops that they use. They're all silver and I wonder whether they're metal and thinner than what I use.
Our hoops are 22mil at least and quite heavy - especially the fire and glow hoops (practice hoops are a lot lighter than these). I always wonder whether they are using the same.
I think the weight of fire hoops and also the spokes, limits how much of these other moves are actually acheivable.
Are there any videos out there of firehoop performances where there is more of this circus/dance influence?