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422 posts
Location: London
Posted:
What do you class as being unreasonable behaviour to another workmate??? As i was physically pushed twice by a male workmate for no reason and I think hes in the wrong.
What do you class as being unreasonable behaviour to another workmate??? As i was physically pushed twice by a male workmate for no reason and I think hes in the wrong.
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Pirate Ninja
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Pirate Ninja
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Posted:
any uninvited physical contact is complety out of order
want me to beat him up for you sweety?
any uninvited physical contact is complety out of order
want me to beat him up for you sweety?
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Location: London
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Location: London
Posted:
Yes please......Im tiny, too small to be pushed. It really upset me, esp cos it was someone in the circus, peoples on my side but i feel really bad because i dont want to be causing trouble....
Yes please......Im tiny, too small to be pushed. It really upset me, esp cos it was someone in the circus, peoples on my side but i feel really bad because i dont want to be causing trouble....
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Sometimes sword wofter
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Location: Edinburgh
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Location: Edinburgh
Posted:
don't let people push you around it's a bad road to go down. Also, technically he's the one who started the trouble.
don't let people push you around it's a bad road to go down. Also, technically he's the one who started the trouble.
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Location: London
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Ive become such a walk over this past year ie unbelievable. Ive decided to hold my own (but in a nice way ) cos i still gotta work with the lil toad
Ive become such a walk over this past year ie unbelievable. Ive decided to hold my own (but in a nice way ) cos i still gotta work with the lil toad
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Perth, Australia
Posted:
Its a fine line between assertive and agressive. Assertive is good.
Holding your own in a nice way is good.
Its a fine line between assertive and agressive. Assertive is good.
Holding your own in a nice way is good.
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grumpy poorly froggy
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grumpy poorly froggy
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Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom
Posted:
anythings thats not wanted..... we'll send in the girls
*was pushed around for far too long one day snapped and it wasn't pretty but OMG it felt good*
anythings thats not wanted..... we'll send in the girls
*was pushed around for far too long one day snapped and it wasn't pretty but OMG it felt good*
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Location: Wales
Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
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Location: Wales
Posted:
I've had problems with a co worker before and my method was to face the problem head on. I requested a meeting with a mediator (just another worker that wasn't involved) present. I told them to their face what I didn't like about the way they behaved toward me and offered them the chance to do the same about me. Then we agreed boundries and wrote it down and both signed it and had it witnessed by the mediator. Problem solved. After that we got on fine. Often problems arise from people not understanding what another person finds comfortable as a boundry, but if you don't tell them what that boundry is you can't expect them to respect it.
Physical violence is never excusable though. That is a boundry that everyone should respect and never over step.
I've had problems with a co worker before and my method was to face the problem head on. I requested a meeting with a mediator (just another worker that wasn't involved) present. I told them to their face what I didn't like about the way they behaved toward me and offered them the chance to do the same about me. Then we agreed boundries and wrote it down and both signed it and had it witnessed by the mediator. Problem solved. After that we got on fine. Often problems arise from people not understanding what another person finds comfortable as a boundry, but if you don't tell them what that boundry is you can't expect them to respect it.
Physical violence is never excusable though. That is a boundry that everyone should respect and never over step.
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old hand
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Location: Manchester England
old hand
896 posts
Location: Manchester England
Posted:
I'm with Skulduggery, go to your Hr and get a mediator or just go up to them and aske thm why they did what they did and tell them unless they can offer a decent explanation or stop any stupidity you will go to your boss and explain to them that you came to them first because you didnt want to seem two faced.
I'm with Skulduggery, go to your Hr and get a mediator or just go up to them and aske thm why they did what they did and tell them unless they can offer a decent explanation or stop any stupidity you will go to your boss and explain to them that you came to them first because you didnt want to seem two faced.
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Posted:
If he pushes you again, tell him to get his balls out.
That should worry him enough into never talking to you again.
Either that, or he will be so shocked/ confused, that what with him being frozen, you can just push him over and walk off.
If he pushes you again, tell him to get his balls out.
That should worry him enough into never talking to you again.
Either that, or he will be so shocked/ confused, that what with him being frozen, you can just push him over and walk off.
Sometimes sword wofter
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Location: Edinburgh
199 posts
Location: Edinburgh
Posted:
along the same lines might I suggest the following from Space Moose:
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along the same lines might I suggest the following from Space Moose:
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Pooh-Bah
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Location: la-la land
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Location: la-la land
Posted:
oh blimey!! HOW apt is this thread... today seems to be the bulling day! I got told how ugly I was today by my sale manager.. he wasn't joking either!
try some of this!
Check out with your HR team or check out your staff guide (if you have one!) If not here are a selection of websites to try!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/health/healthy_living/health_at_work/emotional_bullying1.shtml
https://www.acas.org.uk/a_z/bullying_harassment.html
https://www.tuc.org.uk/tuc/rights_bullyatwork.cfm
https://www.workplacebullying.co.uk/
Don't let the bastards grind you down babe!
I've spoken to my director who was in the office at the time and he took the guy straight out the office and spoke to him seriously. I'm not too sure what is goign to happen next.. he tried to apologise to me straight after - but I was still so angry that I said i was too busy for fear of starting to cry in front of him.. BUT I am not going to let this lay down. I've asked for an official note to be placed in his file, saying that he is a bully.
I'm still really really angry with him and his entire attitude to me.. he seems to think he is the best thing since sliced bread.. but everyone in the office just see's him an idiot.
don't let this person bully you hun.. there is loads of info in the links above.. hope it helps..
oh blimey!! HOW apt is this thread... today seems to be the bulling day! I got told how ugly I was today by my sale manager.. he wasn't joking either!
try some of this!
Check out with your HR team or check out your staff guide (if you have one!) If not here are a selection of websites to try!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/health/healthy_living/health_at_work/emotional_bullying1.shtml
https://www.acas.org.uk/a_z/bullying_harassment.html
https://www.tuc.org.uk/tuc/rights_bullyatwork.cfm
https://www.workplacebullying.co.uk/
Don't let the bastards grind you down babe!
I've spoken to my director who was in the office at the time and he took the guy straight out the office and spoke to him seriously. I'm not too sure what is goign to happen next.. he tried to apologise to me straight after - but I was still so angry that I said i was too busy for fear of starting to cry in front of him.. BUT I am not going to let this lay down. I've asked for an official note to be placed in his file, saying that he is a bully.
I'm still really really angry with him and his entire attitude to me.. he seems to think he is the best thing since sliced bread.. but everyone in the office just see's him an idiot.
don't let this person bully you hun.. there is loads of info in the links above.. hope it helps..
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enthusiast, but not enthusiastic
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Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
Posted:
My mother has a saying (ok, all mothers have sayings), and I hate to admit she's right, But..."Start as you intend to continue." In other words, nip it in the bud. You don't want to give this person the impression that it's ok to push you around. It'll be even harder to stop the improper behavior once it becomes a pattern. And the suggestions of having someone else present or getting an hr person involved, very good. But you mentioned circus...are you serious? Do they have hr people in circuses? I guess it's a business these days like any other.
My mother has a saying (ok, all mothers have sayings), and I hate to admit she's right, But..."Start as you intend to continue." In other words, nip it in the bud. You don't want to give this person the impression that it's ok to push you around. It'll be even harder to stop the improper behavior once it becomes a pattern. And the suggestions of having someone else present or getting an hr person involved, very good. But you mentioned circus...are you serious? Do they have hr people in circuses? I guess it's a business these days like any other.
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Doing this is exactly what i would do usually. However at the moment i have some issues with my manager as she never turns up for work and when she does she spends most the day in town shoppig. I work in a group of 4 people (3 atm) so we`re ALL involved so getting a mediator is difficult. I would call up my area manager but the issue of only 3 employees in the shop comes up again. Its hard to grass up a co worker (especially your manager) when you work in a tiny environment and see each other everyday (if she would turn up). Its not like you can do it anonymously.
Also the guy from the other shop is all up for covering her ass too. Im pretty sure senior members of the company knows shes being slack but are doing nothing about it.
But less about me me me. Dont ever let someone touch you without your permission thats bang out of order. Get someone onto them.
Written by: Skulduggery
I've had problems with a co worker before and my method was to face the problem head on. I requested a meeting with a mediator (just another worker that wasn't involved) present. I told them to their face what I didn't like about the way they behaved toward me and offered them the chance to do the same about me. Then we agreed boundries and wrote it down and both signed it and had it witnessed by the mediator. Problem solved. After that we got on fine. Often problems arise from people not understanding what another person finds comfortable as a boundry, but if you don't tell them what that boundry is you can't expect them to respect it.
Doing this is exactly what i would do usually. However at the moment i have some issues with my manager as she never turns up for work and when she does she spends most the day in town shoppig. I work in a group of 4 people (3 atm) so we`re ALL involved so getting a mediator is difficult. I would call up my area manager but the issue of only 3 employees in the shop comes up again. Its hard to grass up a co worker (especially your manager) when you work in a tiny environment and see each other everyday (if she would turn up). Its not like you can do it anonymously.
Also the guy from the other shop is all up for covering her ass too. Im pretty sure senior members of the company knows shes being slack but are doing nothing about it.
But less about me me me. Dont ever let someone touch you without your permission thats bang out of order. Get someone onto them.
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Location: Wales
Posted:
I didn't "grass up" anyone. I sorted it out with the person face to face.
If things go so far that you have to take it over the head of the person you have a problem with you have to do it in an open and accountable way. Anonymity is not an option as far as I'm concerned. What is the point in standing up to a bully/person not doing their job right if they can't see you are doing it? Whats to stop them doing it to you all over again if they don't see you are willing to stand up to them?
I didn't "grass up" anyone. I sorted it out with the person face to face.
If things go so far that you have to take it over the head of the person you have a problem with you have to do it in an open and accountable way. Anonymity is not an option as far as I'm concerned. What is the point in standing up to a bully/person not doing their job right if they can't see you are doing it? Whats to stop them doing it to you all over again if they don't see you are willing to stand up to them?
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Location: Exeter, United Kingdom
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Well yeah i do agree. I have said to her in the past when little things have annoyed me her response is usually "im the manager i can do what i want". The only thing i can think of is to go to someone up higher.
Right now its very difficult to mention anything to her face as she has problems outside of work so she takes a few days off now and again for this. But its the other times and lateness. Just irrisponsiblenessness.
Im quitting anyway (sos the other girl) so to be honest i dunno why im complaining.
Well yeah i do agree. I have said to her in the past when little things have annoyed me her response is usually "im the manager i can do what i want". The only thing i can think of is to go to someone up higher.
Right now its very difficult to mention anything to her face as she has problems outside of work so she takes a few days off now and again for this. But its the other times and lateness. Just irrisponsiblenessness.
Im quitting anyway (sos the other girl) so to be honest i dunno why im complaining.
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Yeah Im going to request a meeting with him tomorrow, I know hes not well lked in the circus and I dont want to be the reason that someone feels left out. Just wanna know what the problem is - you know.... Grrrr
Yeah Im going to request a meeting with him tomorrow, I know hes not well lked in the circus and I dont want to be the reason that someone feels left out. Just wanna know what the problem is - you know.... Grrrr
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: London, UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: London, UK
Posted:
*is so glad he works as a play worker where all i do is mess about anyway* personally if someones like that to me i tell em to smeg off (can i say that? ah well too late now)
i used to bottle it up at school and that was fatal. if on the other hand the person was just being 'playful' then make sure he knows that you dont like it most people will back off because its as much hassle being ignored or disliked by someone as it is to annoy them.
*is so glad he works as a play worker where all i do is mess about anyway* personally if someones like that to me i tell em to smeg off (can i say that? ah well too late now)
i used to bottle it up at school and that was fatal. if on the other hand the person was just being 'playful' then make sure he knows that you dont like it most people will back off because its as much hassle being ignored or disliked by someone as it is to annoy them.
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Tanted....do you want me to push him over and walk all over him for you in stilletos focussing more on the kidney region?
Tanted....do you want me to push him over and walk all over him for you in stilletos focussing more on the kidney region?
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Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
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Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
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Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Posted:
loads of good advice already so all I can add is;
for tainted for stix
I hope you two have a better one!
Josh
loads of good advice already so all I can add is;
for tainted for stix I hope you two have a better one!
Josh
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Well I tried to be the bigger person (really hard as im so short) but he wasnt interested so Im just gonna grit my teeth when ever I have to work with him guess thats the best way. Thanks every one
Well I tried to be the bigger person (really hard as im so short) but he wasnt interested so Im just gonna grit my teeth when ever I have to work with him guess thats the best way. Thanks every one
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the henna lady
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the henna lady
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Posted:
It's really not.
If you have tried to confront him and he was non-responsive that is a complete lack of caring on his part and it makes it difficult to trust. In any work environment, and especially in circuses, you need to know that you can trust your co-workers.
It is not alright at all for anyone to go through their day uncomfortable or gritting his/her teeth. Tell the head-handle this- honcho, if he does not already know, about everything just to have something formal on paper. Then, if harrassment of any form continues, do not wait to get help. It is the only way this person will learn it is not okay, and *you* are not the one causing problems. *You* are the one trying to find a solution to them.
Best of luck.
Written by: tainted
Well I tried to be the bigger person (really hard as im so short) but he wasnt interested so Im just gonna grit my teeth when ever I have to work with him guess thats the best way.
It's really not.
If you have tried to confront him and he was non-responsive that is a complete lack of caring on his part and it makes it difficult to trust. In any work environment, and especially in circuses, you need to know that you can trust your co-workers.
It is not alright at all for anyone to go through their day uncomfortable or gritting his/her teeth. Tell the head-handle this- honcho, if he does not already know, about everything just to have something formal on paper. Then, if harrassment of any form continues, do not wait to get help. It is the only way this person will learn it is not okay, and *you* are not the one causing problems. *You* are the one trying to find a solution to them.
Best of luck.
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Yea your right, the last thing i want is to be depending on him i he has to base me or something. He could drop me on my head (not much going on in there but still) My housemates (also circus types - god i love my house ) dont think i should let it be, GOd my poor brain is going into overdrive. One thing im sure of and thats that im not going to stoop to his level.
Yea your right, the last thing i want is to be depending on him i he has to base me or something. He could drop me on my head (not much going on in there but still) My housemates (also circus types - god i love my house ) dont think i should let it be, GOd my poor brain is going into overdrive. One thing im sure of and thats that im not going to stoop to his level.
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Pirate Ninja
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Pirate Ninja
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Location: Galway/Ireland
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I dont think you should let it be either sweety.
like you said , you have to trust this guy with your saftey. not only that but if your the one flying and your distracted then you could just as easily have an accident
and you cant afford anymore of those
if you find it easier to write a letter to your boss then do it that way and talk it out with him later.
I dont think you should let it be either sweety.
like you said , you have to trust this guy with your saftey. not only that but if your the one flying and your distracted then you could just as easily have an accident
and you cant afford anymore of those
if you find it easier to write a letter to your boss then do it that way and talk it out with him later.
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Ekkkk its really hard cos Ive never been in this situation before. I have decided that on Monday Im going to try and talk to him again (with one of my housemates there in the background) and see how it goes.
Ekkkk its really hard cos Ive never been in this situation before. I have decided that on Monday Im going to try and talk to him again (with one of my housemates there in the background) and see how it goes.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: London, UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
good luck tainted hopefully he'll get the message - if he dosnt tho make sure you take it to your boss or sumthing bc even in a normal job you dont want ppl who are gunna mis-treat you
good luck tainted
hopefully he'll get the message - if he dosnt tho make sure you take it to your boss or sumthing bc even in a normal job you dont want ppl who are gunna mis-treat you back
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ahh well done.. manys the time ive felt like that. but perhaps too passive still. who knows.
ahh well done
.. manys the time ive felt like that. but perhaps too passive still. who knows. SILVER Member
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So what you're saying spiderbaby is if you are being bullied the solution is to become a bully yourself?
Hmmmmm sorry but thats just wrong. Why become the same as the thing you hate? Non violent strength is what you need. Stand up to the person bullying you, but don't become a bully yourself.
So what you're saying spiderbaby is if you are being bullied the solution is to become a bully yourself?
Hmmmmm sorry but thats just wrong. Why become the same as the thing you hate? Non violent strength is what you need. Stand up to the person bullying you, but don't become a bully yourself.
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