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aznarderstranger
7 posts

Posted:
https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zZHfJ__oGxA

Anyone with an opinion who has tried expressing it at this forum will understand this video as they will be in exactly the same position in regard to being silenced as i am!

April 13th 2008-video was posted at UK HIPPY at 11pm on the 12th of april,was online at the site for half an hour and got about 20 hits and responses before being removed and that account the video was posted in banned on a parmanant basis!.

This was the message sent from the delightful UKHIPPY admid/moderstors.

You have been banned from this site for the following reason:

Thanks for giving us all a jolly good laugh! Anyway, I hope you're having fun in that little world of yours you bloody fruitloop Lots of love from Paul xxx

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

DurbsBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Welcome to HoP - the hardest place to post something original wink

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Fire_MooseSILVER Member
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Posted:
See, I don;t understand why the HoP mods can't just do it that way......

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PyroWillGOLD Member
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Posted:
Nice video Aznarder smile

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind

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Mr MajestikSILVER Member
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Posted:
why is it the only thing i ever hear about ukhippy is people whinging about being banned from it.

i mean seriously......this is the internet, move on to greener pastures, or 4chan ubblol

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aznarderstranger
7 posts

Posted:
because some of us have a sense of justice and will not sit aroiund and tollerate accusations of paedophillia and being silenced by people in the same ways that led to the blind acceptance of fascism and extermination.

jo_rhymesSILVER Member
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Location: Telford, Shrops, United Kingdom


Posted:
I have been a member of ukhippy for over a year now, and although I feel quite settled I can understand what you mean aznarder.

I remember getting banned from a thread because I objected to another forumer smoking cannabis when she was pregnant. I feel that I have the right to this opinion and the right to say it, however as it went against the majority I was banned from the thread.
I wasn't being disrespectful of the other forummers, just that particular choice.
Still though, they are doing the best they can, and if you don't like it, lump it I suppose! I've now taken to staying out of controversial topics. hug

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SkulduggeryGOLD Member
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Posted:
If you are unhappy with the way the forum is run at UK Hippy why not set up your own where you allow people to say whatever they like? People will vote with their feet if they are feeling oppressed on that site and move to yours.



I post on UK hippy but rarely get involved in anything controversial on there as I don't feel the need, but if I did and got banned I would just move on somewhere else.



I'm not exactly sure which banning you are referring to when you go on about someone being accused of paedophilia, the only really big storm I remember of that nature involved an older man locking a young lady in his car. If that is the case you are talking about the fact that a distressed young lady was locked in a car against her will. This is known as kidnapping. After this man had managed to calm her down, he allegedly talked a drunk and recently distressed woman into having sex with him. I believe this is why he was banned. He admitted that he had locked her in the car before he was banned. Now I can't be 100% sure that's exactly why he was banned as I'm not a mod on the board but that is what I was lead to believe.



Now I'm not here to defend UK hippy or it's mods/owners I just feel that you are not showing both sides here.



I only use the boards at UK hippy to chat to people about arts and crafts and nomadic living, so I can't comment on what goes on in a lot of the forums there.



I'm unsure as to why after all this time you have felt the need to come to HoP and drag this up again. It really has nothing to do with Home of Poi.
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aznarderstranger
7 posts

Posted:
sorry-but there arent two sides to the ukhippy story, its a closed minded fascist boot-camp, all freedom of thought is carefully monitored and clamped down upon as it happens, look at the ammount of people banned for no apparent reason, realise that tollerating censorship is the route the planting the seend of fascism,that site is a massive exercise in divide and conquer and it is working-stand against this site and see what it's true intention's are-look at the five people i know of-me being one of them who have had questionable allegations made against them for relationships/friendships with younger people.



some people feel extremely wronged and want to have a voice after being ritually humilliated and publically vilified for crimes they did not comitt then banned from defending themselves.



Ukhippy is treating freedom of expression as this system wants it to be trerated and banning,censoring and humilliating all who dare show and express that right their site claims to offer the user. "feed your head" should be replaced as their banner with " your free do discuss what we deem acceptable suckers"



''The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference,''
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jo_rhymesSILVER Member
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Location: Telford, Shrops, United Kingdom


Posted:
 Written by :Skulduggery



I only use the boards at UK hippy to chat to people about arts and crafts and nomadic living, so I can't comment on what goes on in a lot of the forums there.

I'm unsure as to why after all this time you have felt the need to come to HoP and drag this up again. It really has nothing to do with Home of Poi.



ditto

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aznarderstranger
7 posts

Posted:
I'm unsure as to why after all this time you have felt the need to come to HoP and drag this up again. It really has nothing to do with Home of Poi.



Because i and many others have been vilified then silenced at UKHIPPY and want to expose that injustice-since when were their rules about what is discussed and where on this forum anyway?

SkulduggeryGOLD Member
Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
8,428 posts
Location: Wales


Posted:
What rubbish! The fact that you and they are disputing what has gone on proves that there are 2 sides to this. To just say there isn't is ridiculous. Your opinion is that "its a closed minded fascist boot-camp, all freedom of thought is carefully monitored and clamped down upon as it happens, look at the ammount of people banned for no apparent reason, realise that tollerating censorship is the route the planting the seend of fascism,that site is a massive exercise in divide and conquer and it is working-stand against this site and see what it's true intention's are-look at the five people i know of-me being one of them who have had questionable allegations made against them for relationships/friendships with younger people." but that's obviously not what everyone's opinion of it is. So there is another side to this story.

Oh and to keep saying "The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference," in relation to this matter... Well lets be honest do you think I'm thick? Are you trying to insult my intelligence? If you can't put forward a reasoned discussion backing it up with facts rather than inflammatory words to try and drum up some support then I have nothing more to say to you, because you have a closed mind and are therefore as bad as the people you are accusing of being the very same thing.

I am in no way taking sides here as I am not in possession of all the facts and details of what went on but I can see that you are not putting forward all the facts... even of the limited facts that I know about the situation and I feel that is wrong and that I should say so.

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StoneGOLD Member
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Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
 Written by aznarder

since when were their rules about what is discussed and where on this forum anyway?





HoP Rules



Hope that helps

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faith enfireBRONZE Member
wandering thru the woods of WI
3,556 posts
Location: Wisconsin, USA


Posted:
lol

I'm sure there are some issues because of all the complaints but if I had a nickel for every time someone called me and the other admins of the group I help out with...I'd be rich. There was even a facebook group started say *group name* admins are facist pigs

Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed


Fine_Rabid_DogInternet Hate Machine
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Location: They seek him here, they seek him there...


Posted:
Its the internet.

'Nuff said, surely?

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."


Mr MajestikSILVER Member
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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia


Posted:
[Old link]

consider UK Hippy exposed......happy now? cause at the end of the day somebody other than you owns that site and they can do what they want with it.

move on dude.

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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aznarderstranger
7 posts

Posted:
Moving on can be a process of wanting to expose and legitimately want to rant-the implication that silence and being in a rut mentally is more of a damning exposure of peoples willingness to tollerate repressive,fascist and censorship oirientated behaviour.



All societal changes are based in getting people used to the little systems of controll and censorship and the big one are implemented unchallenged. I cant belive i have received more or less blanket scorn for thois video from the poeple responding here,to be trerated so badly by anyone claiming to be from a sire represening freedom of expression like UKHIPPY and to be banned for the reasons so many have requires a strong and forcefull retalliation.



I suggest all of you who think that responding rather than accepting their behaviour and "moving on " etc think long and hard as to how you wouuld feel for losing contact with people you made friends with because you dared make a point like 9/11 being an inside job and also accused of being a paedophile due to a friendshoip with a 19 year old woman.



i am one of many publlcally vilified and treated appaulingly by UKHIPPY.COM and will scream very loudly about it and and when i wish to.
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Mr_JoePart-time genius
59 posts
Location: Netherlands


Posted:
Nobody's got a problem with you saying what you want, but your reductio-ad-Hitlerum nonsense isn't going to make anyone pay any attention really. Try being a little less hyperbolic when referring to being banned from a forum than 90% of people here have never even visited.

BirgitBRONZE Member
had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
4,145 posts
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland (UK)


Posted:
Just in case you weren't aware of Godwin's Law:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

If you were really after discussing it with people who care, you could've done a search and talked to the people in the existing thread... the first reply could've taken you there. What do you expect? That we all set up a petition and send it to a forum that, as has been mentioned, not many of us know or care about, because you are angry? shrug

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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
*watching*

HoP Posting Guidelines
Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
If you can answer YES to these 4 questions then you may post a reply.


StoutBRONZE Member
Pooh-Bah
1,872 posts
Location: Canada


Posted:
Of course...we're all aware that UKHIPPYdotCOM is the recruitment and outreach arm of the NWO and is not only funded by the Bilderberg group, but administered directly from a FEMA death camp.

...speaking of which, I have a shift at one of those camps this weekend, I'd better go oil my whip.

wink

newgabeSILVER Member
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Posted:
 Written by :flash fire


*watching*



ooooh mods wink

(I like your sig, Flashfire)

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faith enfireBRONZE Member
wandering thru the woods of WI
3,556 posts
Location: Wisconsin, USA


Posted:
I hadn't noticed the whole goodwill and friendship before

Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed


faith enfireBRONZE Member
wandering thru the woods of WI
3,556 posts
Location: Wisconsin, USA


Posted:
9/11 conspiracy theories are so done

Why would people happy with the group have any reason to come here? It's a classic sales theory. Rule of 7. People who like things often don't really mention it or talk about it unless asked. People unhappy will go and tell at least 7 people and they will tell 7 and they will tell 7 etc

Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed


UCOFSILVER Member
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales


Posted:
 Written by :Stout

outreach arm of the NWO



NWA surely?
Coming straight outta Auchwitz wink

SkulduggeryGOLD Member
Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
8,428 posts
Location: Wales


Posted:
Hmmm... so lets just try this again without using a whole lot of words like fascist,boot camp and extermination.

1.What is it you hope to achieve by coming here to express your anger at being banned from UK Hippy?
2.How do you feel we as members of HoP should react to someone coming here and telling us that they feel they have wrongly been accused of being a paedophile when you are offering us no evidence that you have indeed been accused of that or any evidence that if you have been accused that the accusation is a lie?
3.What exactly is it you want us to say to you?

If what you are hoping is that you will eventually cause everyone to boycott UK Hippy you have really come to the wrong place as I know of only 2 people here that actually post on UK hippy. Most of the other members have probably never heard of it and even if they have aren't very interested in the place. All you have done is advertise the fact that you feel you and 4 other people feel they have been labelled as paedophiles. Add to that the inflammatory language you have used, with the lack of any evidence to support your claims and I'm guessing most people here have been completely turned off by you. I'm kind of guessing that's not the reaction you were hoping for.

If you really feel wronged and you feel that there is evil brewing on UK Hippy, might I suggest you go about exposing it in a more researched way, backing up your claims with evidence. Just shouting the odds at a larger group of people who are not involved in your dispute isn't really going to get you very far.

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BirgitBRONZE Member
had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
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Location: Edinburgh, Scotland (UK)


Posted:
Having just watched the first minute of the video, it's obvious that you posted this after already knowing that the hippy forum had been discussed on here. So... I'm seriously confused now as to what your intentions are (see what Skully says).

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GeoffonTour04SILVER Member
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Location: Oxford, United Kingdom


Posted:
I can almost understand where you're coming from but heavy handed mods on a forum isn't exactly the end of the world. Couldn't quite bring myself to watch the full 9 minutes of rant but if it's like your posts on here I'd be surprised if you weren't exaggerating just a little.

Mr MajestikSILVER Member
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Posted:
 Written by :aznarder


.....and will scream very loudly about it and and when i wish to.



well you're certainly doing that well smile

 Written by :aznarder

I cant belive i have received more or less blanket scorn for thois video from the poeple responding here



i dont think its for the message you want to get out in the video, that being that you were unfairly banned, just the way you're doing it. refering to facism and saying things like "Ukhippy is treating freedom of expression as this system wants it to be trerated" sound needlessly exaggerated, and without showing us anything to support your claims it does just sound like another rant

 Written by :skulduggery

If you really feel wronged and you feel that there is evil brewing on UK Hippy, might I suggest you go about exposing it in a more researched way, backing up your claims with evidence. Just shouting the odds at a larger group of people who are not involved in your dispute isn't really going to get you very far.



is exactly whats going on.

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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Atomiknewbie
9 posts

Posted:
Hi all.



Firstly, apologies for this argument being dragged onto your forums. I understand that the politics of another message board really aren't the concern of anyone here (apart from a couple of joint members, possibly), so I'm sorry for any disruption or bad feeling that this has caused.



I'm not going to go into the specifics of every argument, or I'd be here all day. I just wanted to point out a couple of salient facts: Aznarder was not banned for expressing an opinion or holding a point of view... he was banned for the rude and abusive tone of a PM that he sent to one of our mods. If anybody's really interested, we still have copies of those PMs should anyone wish to see them.



What frequently happens with members such as Aznarder is that they'll express an opinion very vocally, then become irate and abusive when that opinion is challenged. Invariably, they will be asked to moderate their tone, and then when the situation escalates into a ban, they will shout loudly about how they were banned for expressing an opinion - with no understanding that the real reason for the ban is actually the manner in which they've expressed themselves. Strong opinions can be put forward without the need for personal abuse, conflict or bad feeling. Indeed, we have many members expressing themselves in such a fashion, and their opinions do not lead to them being banned. I guess the nature of a hippy/counter-culture forum is that it attracts people with a grudge against any perceived authority figures, and no doubt we suffer as a result of that.



We've always been very clear from the start that we're a strictly moderated forum, with a clear vision of the kind of atmosphere we want to foster. I understand that such a forum will not be to all tastes, but the internet is a big place... there's plenty of unmoderated/lightly moderated forums out there for people who disagree with our ethos. We have no problem with that. Pick a forum that suits your personality. Many of us who founded UK Hippy had extremely unpleasant experiences of unmoderated forums and the kind of trolling and aggression that went unchecked, and we were very clear that this wasn't what we wanted for our forum.



We must be doing something right, since we appear to have a closely-knit community of friendly people, many of whom have developed friendships with members beyond the internet. I myself have developed many strong friendships with our members - none of whom seem to be put off by my small moustache and jack-boots. biggrin



The fact that escapes some people is that this community exists because of the way we run it - not despite of the way we run it.



Very few of our bans are considered irreversible. We've had a number of members who've fallen out with us bitterly, only to subsequently apologise and have their bans lifted. In such circumstances, we always view past history as water under the bridge, and endeavour to start afresh with the users concerned.



One final point... it's nearly two years since Aznarder was banned. Judge for yourselves whether his current posting represents a reasonable grievance or obsessive grudge-holding. Had he approached us at any point and asked for a fresh start, we'd have been happy to accommodate him. Those advocating "free speech" would do well to stop shouting and to start talking.



The only bad publicity is no publicity! biggrin



All the best to you HoPpers. hug



Atomik.

GeoffonTour04SILVER Member
enthusiast
360 posts
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom


Posted:
2 years? That's unbelievable. I must admit I had a poke round the forum & it doesn't exactly seem repressive give some of the subject matter on there.

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