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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
That is so rude! He should be ashamed of himself! But it is quite funny Don't know the French name, but I think in the UK I think white gas is the same as 'White Spirits'. Colourless, clear liquid usually sold in DIY shops. Don't know if this helps at all!Dom

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
White spirit ? you mean that thing you use to remove painting etc... ???is that what white gas is ???? can anyone confirm ?thanks for the tip, Dom, and see ya tomorrow Shine oncassandra

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
White gas is a type of fuel used for camping stoves (I've also seen it called stove fuel or camp fuel). Burns clean and hot. I *think* the French for this is "napthe".

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
Ah, apparently it's not the same, so ignore me This is a technical question about practical stuff, so way beyond me! Apparently White Gas is another name for Coleman Fuel, which is a brand available in Europe from camping shops. Available in pressurised cylinders or normal screw-top containers (which is probably what you need for fire use).So I'm going to sit back any let someone with knowledge confirm that or not....[This message has been edited by Alternativa (edited 15 December 2001).]

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
Coleman fuel is available as ``Essence C' 'in French supermarkets and hardware shops. Your "friend" sounds like a jerk. Perhaps you should come to NYC for christmas... I've got plenty of whitegas.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
Adam, thank you so much !NYC ... Is Coleman fuel the same as White gas ? Are you sure it is called Essence C ??? I really never heard that word !!! All right, I'm a good girl, I'll keep searching around !And... no, that "friend" is not a jerk but he is a woos (he does not even do fire wraps on bare skin )And what if I went to NYC for Xmas and you went to Paris , would that make us the two most stupid buddies on HOP ??? Shine onCassandra[This message has been edited by cassandra (edited 15 December 2001).]

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
I hope that this will be of use for someone. I found out that there is lots of confusion between different fuel names in different countries.For instance, in the U.K. people talk about "paraffin" when they mean the fuel that Americans call "kerosene". Paraffin or paraffin, is in Swedish and Finnish the thing you put under your skis in order to get them to run faster, so it is not appropriate to put that in a kerosene lantern or lamp.This fuel table needs the following explanation.1. This is the fuel used in for instance Aladdin and other wick lamps, as well as in pressure lamps of Petromax type.2. The fuel we run our cars on (not Diesel). Nowadays most cars use fuel without led, but standard "gas" is still available.3. This is the fuel used in Coleman "Gas" lanterns, also named Coleman Fuel. It should be about 60% Hexane and 40% Heptane.4. Different spirits used to pre-heat petromax or other kerosene pressure lanterns with.The rest of this post is formated in a comma delimited file. If you have excel for Microsoft windows just cut and paste it into the first cell in excel. That will make it easier to read.U.S.A & Canada Kerosene Gasoline, "Gas" "Coleman Fuel", White gas, Naphta, Blazo Denatured Alcohol, Solvent AlcoholU.K. Paraffin Petrol "Coleman Fuel" Methylated spirit, "meths"Argentina Kerosene Nafta sin Plomo ??? , ("Coleman fuel"?) Alcohol de quemar (=denaturalized alcohol) or Alcohol medicinal (=pharmaceutical alcohol).Australia Kerosene, "kero" Petrol Shellite, Mobilite, White gas Methylated spirit, "meths", "metho" Austria Petroleum Bleifrei Reinigunsbenzin Brennspiritus denaturoitu alkohooli, denaturerad alkohol.Brand names are for instance SINOL or MARINOLGermany Petroleum, Paraffinol, Petrol, Lampenoel Benzin, Bleifrei, Auto-Benzin, Superbenzin Kocherbenzin, Feuerzeug Benzin, Katalyt Benzin, Reinigungsbenzin, Reinbenzin, Fleckenbenzin, Wundbenzin Spiritus, Brennspiritus, Methyl Alkohol Holland Petroleum, Lampen-Olie Benzine, Super, Loodvrij, Normal 16 Wasbenzine, "Coleman Fuel" Spiritus, Brand Spiritus, AlcoholJapan Toh-yu Gasoline White gas, "Coleman Fuel" Nen-ryo yoh, AlcoholNew Zealand Kerosene Petrol White Spirit, Shellite, Callite, Britolite, Pegasol Methylated SpiritsNorway Parafin Bensin Renset Bensin, Heptan, Katlyt Bensin Rod-SpritSouth Africa +Zimbabwe Paraffin Petrol Benzine Methylated spirits, "meths"Sweden Fotogen, T-gul, Tändvätska, lysfotogen Blyfri bensin, bensin Rengörings bensin, Industribensin, Kemiskt ren Bensin, Statoil miljö T-sprit, T-röd, MetanolI hope that tis works. ------------------Blessings to all, Peter "In motion, move like a thundering wave. When still, be like a mountain.Rising up, be like a monkey. Land swiftly and lightly like a bird. Be steadylike a rooster on one leg. One's stance is as firm as a pine tree, yetexpresses motion. Spin swiftly and circularly like a wheel. Bend and flexlike a bow. Waft gracefully like a leaf in the wind. Sink like a heavy pieceof metal. Prey like a watchful, gliding eagle. Accelerate like a gusty wind." Wushu Proverb

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
Wuss aka wussy.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
You should flog him with your poi Cassandra!!! Sheesh! What a spoiled brat!Naphtha is the spelling of it, I was told, no matter where you go. Whether or not this is true I can only guess.Cassandra, lighter fluid that goes into Zippo lighters is the same thing sold in smaller amounts(NOT butane!).Honestly I would tell him if he wants it so damn bad he can get a good tour of Paris by going from shop to shop looking for it! Love n hugs(And see both of you...I didn't even use any winky faces!)------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...https://www.pyromorph.com

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
Naaa, she's not into that kinda stuff... I asked. (to Pele) (to Cassandra) (sorry, just had something in my eye on that one...)

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Posted: 14th Dec 2001
Just give him Kerosine and tell him it's white gas. Just tell him that it's a new brand that burns longer and not as hot (sense it sounds like he's afraid of burns).In my opinion Kero is far, far supirior to white gas in almost every way. But then thats just my preferance.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2001
I'm deadset against Kero. I hate it.No offence or anything but I don't think Kero beats ANY other fuel, it's my least favorite.For trailing whitegas rocks. Gives the best trails and doesn't stick arond too long. I can paint nicely with whitegas (and effectively burn patches of hair off my chest and stomach.... mmmmmm... sexy clumps of hair. )For eating Kerosine SUUUUUUCKS... unless you like that always popular kerosine hangover the next day... I prefer the short "whitegas breath" to the extemded toxicity of Kero anyday...For twirling I'd never use either. Both are far too volitile. Lampoil rocks.Maybe one of y'all can explain the "joys of kerosine" since some of you seem to love it so... but as someone who's tried all three fuels extensively I stick to my guns: Keep your black buggers, Kero sucks.Ain't nobody slippin' me a kerosine mickey and tellin' me it's whitegas... Anyone else who's used both want to chime in?

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Posted: 16th Dec 2001
I agree with you about the trailing. Kero sucks for that. As for fire breathing I don't do it, and I would never suggest that anyone put kero, white gas, pariffen, naptha, or anything like it in thier mouth. Sounds like a bad idea to me.But for spinning Kero is probobly the least volitile fuel to use. You can actually put a lit wick out in it (granted this needs to be done quickly, but it can be done) Kero burns for longer than most fuels and burns cooler, so if your wicks make (breif) contact with your skin you will only have a black smudge rather than a second degree burn. You can put your wicks in it, after you've spun them out, to keep them from smouldering. Try that with white gas. You also don't get any of the dripping flame that you get with white gas. And as you've apparently read my "What the $@%$ is wrong with people" thread you can see how quickly things can get out of hand with white gas. I've never even had a close call with straight kero.I do, however, when it is very cold here, use a 90/10 mix of kero/white gas, to light my wicks faster, as kero can be a little hard to light in the cold.And that is the story of why I like Kerosine

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Posted: 17th Dec 2001
Steelwings ... YOU ROCK !! I am always amazed at people like you or Adam and the logic, precision and efficiency you have... Chances are low I'll set Anyone on fire with the wrong fuel now ...Pele, yes, i'll just grab his hand and take him on a treasure... or white gas hunt through the city of light and love... sounds pretty cool to me NYC flog you ? damn right i'm not into that ... but then again , there are tons of other things one can do with chains ... Shine on you crazy people Cassandra

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Posted: 17th Dec 2001
Pele, So the "lighter fluid" in the zippo I got for Christmas is whitegas? Cool, I thought it smelled familiar. I'm sure we can at least find that...

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Posted: 17th Dec 2001
NYC, the ONLY advantage of kero for me, over lamp oil or pegasol is that it's cheap!Nothing else. Volatility here in NZ is the same as lamp oil and pegasol, but the smell and the smoke and the smell and the smell and the smell are the five major problems. Oh yeah, and the taste... (not that i firebreath anymore anyways).It's interesting that you call it volatile, as I use it a lot for busking (coz its CHEAP!) and often extinguish my wicks by dunking them into the tin. It seems to have the same properties as pegasol or lamp oil IMHO.*NOTE TO EVERYONE READING* This is not recommended for any fuel except lamp oil, pegasol or kero (parrafin). DO NOT DUNK LIT INSIDE OR WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A LARGE AREA AROUND YOU. Be careful not to accidentally knock the tin over when dunking. Also, don't leave any of the wick stick out the top or it will act like a big candle and heat up the kero to the point where it will catch light.*****------------------Charles (INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggling.co.nz

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Posted: 17th Dec 2001
Check out the Fuel FAQ: https://members.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/fuel32.htmThr
French equivalents to white gas (shellite) are Petrol a Bruler, Essence filtree, Blanche sans plomb, Essence C, Essence a l'usage domestique

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2002
After begging a certain knucklehead to "Just bring me to a store where they sell tents!" I was able to find out why Cassandra had so much trouble finding Coleman Fuel. It seems in France it is sold under the name "Coleman Fuel"... so for those of you traveling in France in the future who need Coleman Fuel remember to ask for "Coleman Fuel". They are sold in bottles with the words "Coleman Fuel" printed in large letters.Though coleman fuel was still cheap, DAMN lamp oil was expensive!Anyway, the moral of the story is that "Coleman" is a pretty international camping stove company and anyone looking for the stuff in shouldn't have THAT much trouble finding it.Unless she smokes crack.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2002
NYC, you crackhead ! I knew you'd make fun of me on that one ... Well, you did get that fuel and do that sexy trailing in the end ... so why complain Besides... I know you loved running all over the city with me freezing our asses trying to find that fuel thanks everyone Shine onCassandra

"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"