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does anyone know any places online to order different chemicals for colored flames, specifically indium or potassium chloride. I'd kinda like some lithium chloride too, but I dont think I'm gonna be getting that.
any help would be much appreciated
does anyone know any places online to order different chemicals for colored flames, specifically indium or potassium chloride. I'd kinda like some lithium chloride too, but I dont think I'm gonna be getting that.
any help would be much appreciated
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This might help, might not I have been told that Lithium Chloride is used in the treatment of skitofrenia, I can't spell the proper word lol. So maybe speak to a chemist. I will be doing that soon I will post my results when I do.
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This might help, might not I have been told that Lithium Chloride is used in the treatment of skitofrenia, I can't spell the proper word lol. So maybe speak to a chemist. I will be doing that soon I will post my results when I do.
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This could be a simple solution.... I don't know how old you are but if you have a college around by you or you are currently going to one find a chemistry teacher there and ask them about(but make sure it's after their classes) Ask him simply where you could get some and tell him the reason.
This could be a simple solution.... I don't know how old you are but if you have a college around by you or you are currently going to one find a chemistry teacher there and ask them about(but make sure it's after their classes) Ask him simply where you could get some and tell him the reason.
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I have some lithium chloride. It is used for treatment of manic depression or something, and I got it by asking my doctor after explaining that I was going to burn it It doesn't seem to work very well though, maybe it was just the alcohal I was using though, which went out too fast. It did make the flames slightly more red, but not enough that you would really notice if you weren't looking. A pharmicist would probably be a good person to ask, because they might be familiar with chemicals and where to get them.
I have some lithium chloride. It is used for treatment of manic depression or something, and I got it by asking my doctor after explaining that I was going to burn it It doesn't seem to work very well though, maybe it was just the alcohal I was using though, which went out too fast. It did make the flames slightly more red, but not enough that you would really notice if you weren't looking. A pharmicist would probably be a good person to ask, because they might be familiar with chemicals and where to get them.
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i told a friend you were asking for sources, she didn't know, but wondered what kinds of stores too, she's only occasionally bought from magic stores as i knew. i wondered if magic stores might have some, but thought that in UK where "chemist" traditionally meant not only US pharmacist but also used to supply chemicals for non-health-improvement uses to non-patient-consumers, such as poisons, maybe crop stuff, to industries, wondered if chemicals for fire colors are more readily available? such stores don't exist in the US anymore, really, and i imagine most chemicals are regulated here so it's not casual to get most... just like calvran and Crimson think first of medical applications, which is the only round-about solution which first comes to mind in the States.
Any UK or Europeans or others on here tell us where they get their chems, please?
i told a friend you were asking for sources, she didn't know, but wondered what kinds of stores too, she's only occasionally bought from magic stores as i knew. i wondered if magic stores might have some, but thought that in UK where "chemist" traditionally meant not only US pharmacist but also used to supply chemicals for non-health-improvement uses to non-patient-consumers, such as poisons, maybe crop stuff, to industries, wondered if chemicals for fire colors are more readily available? such stores don't exist in the US anymore, really, and i imagine most chemicals are regulated here so it's not casual to get most... just like calvran and Crimson think first of medical applications, which is the only round-about solution which first comes to mind in the States.
Any UK or Europeans or others on here tell us where they get their chems, please?
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I haven't had much luck with potassium chloride, but it can be aquired at your local health foods store. I've bought it under the name "nu-salt" before. Its sold as a salt substitute for those wishing to reduce / eliminate sodium from their diet. If you get any good results with it, be sure to tell me. I tried using it in the form it come is (salt grain sized pieces) and I tried grinding it with mortar and pestel, neither produced impressive results. I'd like to experiment with chemicals designed for fireworks manufacturing soon, which can be found on the internet.
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I haven't had much luck with potassium chloride, but it can be aquired at your local health foods store. I've bought it under the name "nu-salt" before. Its sold as a salt substitute for those wishing to reduce / eliminate sodium from their diet. If you get any good results with it, be sure to tell me. I tried using it in the form it come is (salt grain sized pieces) and I tried grinding it with mortar and pestel, neither produced impressive results. I'd like to experiment with chemicals designed for fireworks manufacturing soon, which can be found on the internet.
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Boric acid. Sold as roach powder at the hardware store. Mix it with denatured alchohol (also available at the hardware store) to get a green flame. Cheap, easy.
Boric acid. Sold as roach powder at the hardware store. Mix it with denatured alchohol (also available at the hardware store) to get a green flame. Cheap, easy.
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Potassium Chloride - Available by the 18kg bag. It's used as a salt replacement for water softeners. Should be available any place that deals with water-treatment, or Walmart, Do It centres, etc.....
18kg was $7 here in Canada.
Potassium Chloride - Available by the 18kg bag. It's used as a salt replacement for water softeners. Should be available any place that deals with water-treatment, or Walmart, Do It centres, etc.....
18kg was $7 here in Canada.
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Potassium Chloride - Available by the 18kg bag. It's used as a salt replacement for water softeners. Should be available any place that deals with water-treatment, or Walmart, Do It centres, etc.....
18kg was $7 here in Canada.
Potassium Chloride - Available by the 18kg bag. It's used as a salt replacement for water softeners. Should be available any place that deals with water-treatment, or Walmart, Do It centres, etc.....
18kg was $7 here in Canada.
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hmm, dont know where to get the stuff, but cadmium sulphide burns with a bright pink flame...
asking your old chem teacher is a good idea, thinking about doing that myself.
hmm, dont know where to get the stuff, but cadmium sulphide burns with a bright pink flame...
asking your old chem teacher is a good idea, thinking about doing that myself.
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Lithium chloride is indeed used in the treatment of Bipolar (or manic) depression. I would suggest handling it with some care as it can cause extreme nausea and kidney problems if taken orally at the wrong dose (ask anyone who is on lithium and I'll bet their doctors bills are pretty high) If I remember correctly it can also negatively effect visual focus (very not good for when you light up I would think).
Obviously inhaling smoke containing lithium salts will have different effects then taking it orally, but they might actually be worse so please keep an eye on yourself when using them and if you feel at all off after using it I would suggest you contact a doctor.
Lithium chloride is indeed used in the treatment of Bipolar (or manic) depression. I would suggest handling it with some care as it can cause extreme nausea and kidney problems if taken orally at the wrong dose (ask anyone who is on lithium and I'll bet their doctors bills are pretty high) If I remember correctly it can also negatively effect visual focus (very not good for when you light up I would think).
Obviously inhaling smoke containing lithium salts will have different effects then taking it orally, but they might actually be worse so please keep an eye on yourself when using them and if you feel at all off after using it I would suggest you contact a doctor.
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How much of this roach powder did you use compared to the amount of fuel?
Also, can I use coleman fuel (my regular fuel and what I have found incomparably to be the best)? Does anyone know if the fuel you use matters when using color chemicals?
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Boric acid. Sold as roach powder at the hardware store. Mix it with denatured alchohol (also available at the hardware store) to get a green flame. Cheap, easy.
How much of this roach powder did you use compared to the amount of fuel?
Also, can I use coleman fuel (my regular fuel and what I have found incomparably to be the best)? Does anyone know if the fuel you use matters when using color chemicals?
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Nate,
Since you're a newbie I'll be nice, this should get you started
https://www.homeofpoi.com/articles/colouredflames.php
In future do a search please, this is one of the most common threads started here on HOP. There's loads of info in the articles section.
Go. Read. Enjoy.
M
Nate,
Since you're a newbie I'll be nice, this should get you started
https://www.homeofpoi.com/articles/colouredflames.php
In future do a search please, this is one of the most common threads started here on HOP. There's loads of info in the articles section.
Go. Read. Enjoy.
M
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