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just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posted:
i like it i like it lots ive been playing with both going reverse lots and also started playing with one forward and one reverse while trying to keep them parallel oooooooooh its so hard buuuuuuut ive found that the trick to them is to practise infront of a mirror its greeeeeeeeeat you get to watch yourself and spin
ive also found that exagerated flowy body movements so the arm positions are 90 degreesish from each other helps loads tis great for trying to become more aware of your whole body
dual fishy trick family type thing
both sticks in front wall plane
both backwards fishtailing totally out of time (pretty move allows lots of body movement)
both backwards fishtailing half out of time (gives a parallelish effect)
both backwards fishtailing in time to get a butterfly like effect (i cant make it pretty yet the body shape for it is just wrong)
one forwards and one backward to give a parrallel effect the whole time (very pretty very very hard)
both sticks in wheel plane
yay tim
inside the body fish tails (hope i can explain them better then i can do them)
As the name suggests you need to have staffs short enough to spin them inside your body i.e. like a buzz saw type thing
theres acutually 16 vairatations possible but i recokon only five worth learning
one inside out ouside same direction: both staffs spinning in the same direction (i reommend backwards) and have the timeing so when one's inside the body the others is outside.
both inside, both out side same direction: simalar to the last one but different timeing.
cross formation: both staffs spinning same direction but the timing is half way between to last two which should mean you gat a nice fishtail buzzsaw cross thing going (well that's the theroy anyway).
one inside one outside opposite directions: the clues in the name
both inside, both outside opposite directon: if anyone's up for a challenge try to swap the staffs over when there both on the inside
the other type which i haven't mentions are the spit time ones and all the reverses
as an insentive for people to pratices themam going to offer a prizes of 10 snails to the first person who gets 20 beats of each type
EDITED_BY: ben-ja-men (1101476901)
i like it i like it lots ive been playing with both going reverse lots and also started playing with one forward and one reverse while trying to keep them parallel oooooooooh its so hard buuuuuuut ive found that the trick to them is to practise infront of a mirror its greeeeeeeeeat you get to watch yourself and spin
ive also found that exagerated flowy body movements so the arm positions are 90 degreesish from each other helps loads tis great for trying to become more aware of your whole bodydual fishy trick family type thing
both sticks in front wall plane
both backwards fishtailing totally out of time (pretty move allows lots of body movement)
both backwards fishtailing half out of time (gives a parallelish effect)
both backwards fishtailing in time to get a butterfly like effect (i cant make it pretty yet the body shape for it is just wrong)
one forwards and one backward to give a parrallel effect the whole time (very pretty very very hard)
both sticks in wheel plane
yay tim
inside the body fish tails (hope i can explain them better then i can do them)
As the name suggests you need to have staffs short enough to spin them inside your body i.e. like a buzz saw type thing
theres acutually 16 vairatations possible but i recokon only five worth learning
one inside out ouside same direction: both staffs spinning in the same direction (i reommend backwards) and have the timeing so when one's inside the body the others is outside.
both inside, both out side same direction: simalar to the last one but different timeing.
cross formation: both staffs spinning same direction but the timing is half way between to last two which should mean you gat a nice fishtail buzzsaw cross thing going (well that's the theroy anyway).
one inside one outside opposite directions: the clues in the name
both inside, both outside opposite directon: if anyone's up for a challenge try to swap the staffs over when there both on the inside
the other type which i haven't mentions are the spit time ones and all the reverses
as an insentive for people to pratices themam going to offer a prizes of 10 snails to the first person who gets 20 beats of each type
EDITED_BY: ben-ja-men (1101476901)
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?
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546 posts
Location: Leeds, United Kingdom
addict
546 posts
Location: Leeds, United Kingdom
Posted:
i always use my shadow to praice.....cant do it in the house.Thanks for the tips im tryin really hard with my staff(s) at the mo.
mike.c
i always use my shadow to praice.....cant do it in the house.Thanks for the tips im tryin really hard with my staff(s) at the mo.
mike.c
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Me
607 posts
Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom
Me
607 posts
Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom
Posted:
inside the body fish tails (hope i can explain them better then i can do them)
As the name suggests you need to have staffs short enough to spin them inside your body i.e. like a buzz saw type thing
theres acutually 16 vairatations possible but i recokon only five worth learning
one inside out ouside same direction: both staffs spinning in the same direction (i reommend backwards) and have the timeing so when one's inside the body the others is outside.
both inside, both out side same direction: simalar to the last one but different timeing.
cross formation: both staffs spinning same direction but the timing is half way between to last two which should mean you gat a nice fishtail buzzsaw cross thing going (well that's the theroy anyway).
one inside one outside opposite directions: the clues in the name
both inside, both outside opposite directon: if anyone's up for a challenge try to swap the staffs over when there both on the inside
the other type which i haven't mentions are the spit time ones and all the reverses
as an insentive for people to pratices themam going to offer a prizes of 10 snails to the first person who gets 20 beats of each type
inside the body fish tails (hope i can explain them better then i can do them)
As the name suggests you need to have staffs short enough to spin them inside your body i.e. like a buzz saw type thing
theres acutually 16 vairatations possible but i recokon only five worth learning
one inside out ouside same direction: both staffs spinning in the same direction (i reommend backwards) and have the timeing so when one's inside the body the others is outside.
both inside, both out side same direction: simalar to the last one but different timeing.
cross formation: both staffs spinning same direction but the timing is half way between to last two which should mean you gat a nice fishtail buzzsaw cross thing going (well that's the theroy anyway).
one inside one outside opposite directions: the clues in the name
both inside, both outside opposite directon: if anyone's up for a challenge try to swap the staffs over when there both on the inside
the other type which i haven't mentions are the spit time ones and all the reverses
as an insentive for people to pratices themam going to offer a prizes of 10 snails to the first person who gets 20 beats of each type
Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all C
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SILVER Member
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
Posted:
Double Fishtails can be found on Blackandbluepart2 with is on the Poi in the Park site.
Double Fishtails can be found on Blackandbluepart2 with is on the Poi in the Park site.
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
saexy ass moves there guys
damn i wish could do fishtails.
after six months im still nowhere near getting more than two beats
saexy ass moves there guys
damn i wish could do fishtails.
after six months im still nowhere near getting more than two beats
Love is the law.
SILVER Member
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
Posted:
You must be doing somehting wrong then
You must be doing somehting wrong then
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
tell me about it. no other move has frustrated me this much
tell me about it. no other move has frustrated me this much
Love is the law.
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just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posted:
ado-p a tip to learning fishtails
1. start with doing back hand to back hand passes
make sure you have it slow (push your hands together when passing from one to the other to act like a break) , consistant and controlled before going to step 2
2. to learn reverse fishtails on your right hand spin the staff anticlockwise when you are looking at it, when the staff has been passed from left hand onto right hand and is roughly horizontal pivot on your left leg and bring your right leg round behind you so that you spin 180 degrees. then go back into back hand passings this will let you experience the feeling of the fishtail path. adjust your hand movement until you can do this movement without the staff falling off. You now have the first half of the fishtail
3. do the same movement in reverse carrying the staff back on the same hand.
4. once u have both halfs down dont do the passing inbetween just switch between each half continuously
5. to learn forwards do the same with the staff spining the opposite way
general tips - be very aware of the staff when learning backwards fishtails as the staff is coming at your head, if you think its going to hit you in the head dont stop and freeze becos then it will instead finish the movement and drop it, its less painful.
if this way doesnt float your boat go to www.poiinthepark.net theres a different way to learn them that i wrote ages ago on there
ado-p a tip to learning fishtails
1. start with doing back hand to back hand passes
make sure you have it slow (push your hands together when passing from one to the other to act like a break) , consistant and controlled before going to step 2
2. to learn reverse fishtails on your right hand spin the staff anticlockwise when you are looking at it, when the staff has been passed from left hand onto right hand and is roughly horizontal pivot on your left leg and bring your right leg round behind you so that you spin 180 degrees. then go back into back hand passings this will let you experience the feeling of the fishtail path. adjust your hand movement until you can do this movement without the staff falling off. You now have the first half of the fishtail
3. do the same movement in reverse carrying the staff back on the same hand.
4. once u have both halfs down dont do the passing inbetween just switch between each half continuously
5. to learn forwards do the same with the staff spining the opposite way
general tips - be very aware of the staff when learning backwards fishtails as the staff is coming at your head, if you think its going to hit you in the head dont stop and freeze becos then it will instead finish the movement and drop it, its less painful.
if this way doesnt float your boat go to www.poiinthepark.net theres a different way to learn them that i wrote ages ago on there
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
sweetness,
I never would have considered using a method like that.
thankee muchly
sweetness,
I never would have considered using a method like that.
thankee muchly
Love is the law.
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just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posted:
most staff movements can be broken into parts to be learned seperately then recombined into a whole
most staff movements can be broken into parts to be learned seperately then recombined into a whole
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?
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