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Posted:
I just ordered a fire flogger from Bearclaw, and I'm seeking advice. I know how to wield a flogger, and I know how to wield poi, so I'm not completely new to hitting people with stuff or lighting stuff on fire, but this is my first fire flogger.
Any tips/tricks/thoughts?
Most important: What sort of fuel should I use? I've heard some varying opinions. 70% isopropyl alcohol, 90% isopropyl alcohol, and white gas seem to be the top contenders. Lamp oil would be too oily. 70% ispropyl alcohol is what's usually used in kinky fireplay, but I'm not sure it would stay lit or be pretty enough with a flogger that's in use. But I worry that white gas would be ::cough:: too hot. (Then again, one of the people this is going to be used on did request something intense.)
What do you think, fuel-wise?
(I'll probably test it out with each, starting at the coolest and ending with the white gas, and swat my arm with each to see how it feels before using it on someone else, of course. But I want advice first anyway.)
Also important: Would it be best to run my hand over my sub's back between strokes to stop the residual fuel from burning, or is it going to be okay to actually build up a rhythm and keep going without pausing like that? (I'll probably discover this when testing it on my arm, too, but I want your thoughts nonetheless. My arm thanks you.)
If you're good to me and give me advice, I'll see if I can post photos of it in use later.
C'mon, I know some of you out there are more experienced perverts than I am. pounce? Vanize? Riz? Someone help, please!
Thank you!!
[Disclaimer: Yes, I did a search first. I didn't find what I was looking for. I also look both ways before I cross the street and buckle my safety belt and have a spotter with a fire retardant blanket and keep surgical scissors nearby when I play with rope and a first aid kit nearby when I play with fire, &c. &c. &c. ad nauseum.]
I just ordered a fire flogger from Bearclaw, and I'm seeking advice. I know how to wield a flogger, and I know how to wield poi, so I'm not completely new to hitting people with stuff or lighting stuff on fire, but this is my first fire flogger.
Any tips/tricks/thoughts?
Most important: What sort of fuel should I use? I've heard some varying opinions. 70% isopropyl alcohol, 90% isopropyl alcohol, and white gas seem to be the top contenders. Lamp oil would be too oily. 70% ispropyl alcohol is what's usually used in kinky fireplay, but I'm not sure it would stay lit or be pretty enough with a flogger that's in use. But I worry that white gas would be ::cough:: too hot. (Then again, one of the people this is going to be used on did request something intense.)
What do you think, fuel-wise?
(I'll probably test it out with each, starting at the coolest and ending with the white gas, and swat my arm with each to see how it feels before using it on someone else, of course. But I want advice first anyway.)
Also important: Would it be best to run my hand over my sub's back between strokes to stop the residual fuel from burning, or is it going to be okay to actually build up a rhythm and keep going without pausing like that? (I'll probably discover this when testing it on my arm, too, but I want your thoughts nonetheless. My arm thanks you.)
If you're good to me and give me advice, I'll see if I can post photos of it in use later.
C'mon, I know some of you out there are more experienced perverts than I am. pounce? Vanize? Riz? Someone help, please!
Thank you!!
[Disclaimer: Yes, I did a search first. I didn't find what I was looking for. I also look both ways before I cross the street and buckle my safety belt and have a spotter with a fire retardant blanket and keep surgical scissors nearby when I play with rope and a first aid kit nearby when I play with fire, &c. &c. &c. ad nauseum.]
E pluribus unum, baby.
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Incoming PM, regyt....
Incoming PM, regyt....
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Sweet talented nutter
2,615 posts
Location: Brisbane Oz, Australia
Sweet talented nutter
2,615 posts
Location: Brisbane Oz, Australia
Posted:
Im sorry my advice wasn't much help .
Just remember that floggers are very visual fire aids.
And no im perverted in any way or form sorry
Im sorry my advice wasn't much help .
Just remember that floggers are very visual fire aids.
And no im perverted in any way or form sorry
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940 posts
940 posts
Posted:
S'ok, sweetie.
I appreciate it!
S'ok, sweetie.
I appreciate it! E pluribus unum, baby.
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Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Posted:
i made my own, using1/4" kevlar twine. i took five pieces 24 inches long, folded them in two, and sewed the loop with kevlar string. i tied the frayed ends in knots, so they won't unravel. i then took an eight inch piece of EMT conduit and flared the end outward, then tapped the flare down to the outside, creating a nice smooth roll, so the burr that is usually there can't harm the wick. i drilled a hole just below the flare, and ran a screw through the pipe and the loop created when i sewed the wick together. total cost: about 7 dollars. time and labor: less than an hour. the only thing that made it take any time whatsoever was the leather backbraided handle wrap i put on it two weeks later. i have since used it in fleshing (transfers) both on myself and on volunteers (victims?) to great effect.
i made my own, using1/4" kevlar twine. i took five pieces 24 inches long, folded them in two, and sewed the loop with kevlar string. i tied the frayed ends in knots, so they won't unravel. i then took an eight inch piece of EMT conduit and flared the end outward, then tapped the flare down to the outside, creating a nice smooth roll, so the burr that is usually there can't harm the wick. i drilled a hole just below the flare, and ran a screw through the pipe and the loop created when i sewed the wick together. total cost: about 7 dollars. time and labor: less than an hour. the only thing that made it take any time whatsoever was the leather backbraided handle wrap i put on it two weeks later. i have since used it in fleshing (transfers) both on myself and on volunteers (victims?) to great effect.
Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel
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Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Posted:
on the matter of fuels, i use white gas for floggings, i just meter my swings, and make sure that most of the excess is wrung out.
on the matter of fuels, i use white gas for floggings, i just meter my swings, and make sure that most of the excess is wrung out.
Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel
I don't want a title.
940 posts
940 posts
Posted:
Do you give firm thwacks with it, or more just brush the back with it to try to transfer fuel and give a sense of heat?
Do you give firm thwacks with it, or more just brush the back with it to try to transfer fuel and give a sense of heat?
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old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
Posted:
Ouch!
I'm glad not to be the one who gets flogged.
Raph
Ouch!
I'm glad not to be the one who gets flogged.
Raph
I don't want a title.
940 posts
940 posts
Posted:
You can be if you want to be..
You can be if you want to be..
E pluribus unum, baby.
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member
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Location: canadian in canada
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Location: canadian in canada
Posted:
there was a thread in this forum about fire painting....
a fun relationship could be made between fire painting and fire flogging...
hmmmm......
there was a thread in this forum about fire painting....
a fun relationship could be made between fire painting and fire flogging...
hmmmm......
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old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
Posted:
LOL!
No, I prefer to go with Nature than against it!
Raph
Written by: regyt
You can be if you want to be..
LOL!
No, I prefer to go with Nature than against it!
Raph
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Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Posted:
the amount of impact is usually best determined by calibrating blows with a regular flogger. my ex-fiance and i have worked out a fetish act that involves her topless, getting fleshed (transfers) across the back, then fire-flogged, then fleshed across her chest and belly, then fireflogged frontally. i use white gas on her, as with all my volunteers (victims?). but a helpful tip is to calibrate first, then teach transferring, so they know what to expect. a light dousing with a water-soaked towel helps, too. with her, i have to re-douse her skin between parts (transfer,douse,flog,douse,transfer,douse,flog,douse.)
the amount of impact is usually best determined by calibrating blows with a regular flogger. my ex-fiance and i have worked out a fetish act that involves her topless, getting fleshed (transfers) across the back, then fire-flogged, then fleshed across her chest and belly, then fireflogged frontally. i use white gas on her, as with all my volunteers (victims?). but a helpful tip is to calibrate first, then teach transferring, so they know what to expect. a light dousing with a water-soaked towel helps, too. with her, i have to re-douse her skin between parts (transfer,douse,flog,douse,transfer,douse,flog,douse.)
Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel
BRONZE Member
Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Posted:
if you get a streamloader account, i can send you the link for the videos os our first fire flogger rehearsal... no way will i even TRY to post them here, as they are not g-rated in the least... the account is free, but you can only download 10 mb at a time. if you get one of the paid accounts, you can download any size file. https://www.streamload.com
if you do this, post your streamloader id here, and i'll send the videos. this is, of course, unless you have already worked out the act for yourself.
moderators, if i have violated any rules in this post, please understand it was never my intention to do so.
if you get a streamloader account, i can send you the link for the videos os our first fire flogger rehearsal... no way will i even TRY to post them here, as they are not g-rated in the least... the account is free, but you can only download 10 mb at a time. if you get one of the paid accounts, you can download any size file. https://www.streamload.com
if you do this, post your streamloader id here, and i'll send the videos. this is, of course, unless you have already worked out the act for yourself.
moderators, if i have violated any rules in this post, please understand it was never my intention to do so.
Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel
BRONZE Member
Irish
525 posts
Location: Dallas.........ish, USA
Irish
525 posts
Location: Dallas.........ish, USA
Posted:
try denatured alcohol in addition to isopropyl...or even ethyl alcohol-the kind in liqours....it generally has a low burning temp..but also has a small flame...so yeas...tinker with your fuels and even mix them...find what works for you
try denatured alcohol in addition to isopropyl...or even ethyl alcohol-the kind in liqours....it generally has a low burning temp..but also has a small flame...so yeas...tinker with your fuels and even mix them...find what works for you
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Posted:
Fire flogging much like any other fire art is all about personal style. I make my own floggers, so I use them either one at a time or in pairs. It all depends on what kind of performance I want to put on. My floggers have hand straps at the base of the handle. This allows me to use them in pairs similarly to poi for florentine flogging. Isopropyl alcohol is what I use. It burns, it has a low burn temp and doesn't have a chemical reaction to the skin like white gas does.
As per putting on a good show for others, it depends on both you and you're partner. You're partner has to have quite a bit of grace to really catch the crowd.
For a private thing, you just learn as you go find a style that fits you. Always remember it's all about the love.
Fire flogging much like any other fire art is all about personal style. I make my own floggers, so I use them either one at a time or in pairs. It all depends on what kind of performance I want to put on. My floggers have hand straps at the base of the handle. This allows me to use them in pairs similarly to poi for florentine flogging. Isopropyl alcohol is what I use. It burns, it has a low burn temp and doesn't have a chemical reaction to the skin like white gas does.
As per putting on a good show for others, it depends on both you and you're partner. You're partner has to have quite a bit of grace to really catch the crowd.
For a private thing, you just learn as you go find a style that fits you. Always remember it's all about the love.
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stranger
2 posts
Location: USA
stranger
2 posts
Location: USA
Posted:
well the steamloader is no longer free, i have emailed you fredrick to see about info.
well the steamloader is no longer free, i have emailed you fredrick to see about info.
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Location: Ireland
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Location: Ireland
Posted:
Anyone still alive in this thread?
I am starting fireplay.
I have made my own floggers
Ordered 8 inch nunchcuks and cut out the chain minus 1 link either side
With a splitring connected an 8 inch chain to each (doglead)
With another split ring connected 3 16 inch 10mm round fuses (folded double to each.
Anyone still alive in this thread?
I am starting fireplay.
I have made my own floggers
Ordered 8 inch nunchcuks and cut out the chain minus 1 link either side
With a splitring connected an 8 inch chain to each (doglead)
With another split ring connected 3 16 inch 10mm round fuses (folded double to each.
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