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Forums > Social Discussion > Opinions needed: can you take a look at these photos for me?
Login/Join to ParticipateCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Cambridge UK
Hey poiple,
I'm doing a photography at uni at the moment, and part of what I have to do is photo manipulation. Can you take a look at the maipulated version, and tell me what looks real/ what's a giveaway? I put up the original one as well so you can see what's changed.
Cheers!
manipulated version
original photo
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503 posts
Location: bristol
small point: the figure second from the right looks a bit odd
big point: the shading is all wrong. the light appears to be coming from the background (i.e. where the rain is), but that's completely incongruent with the background being full of rainclouds.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
figure second from right is two people next to each other but perspective makes it look almost like one.
I'll see if I can do anything about the shading, although i did darken it a bit if you check the original. Is it not enough?
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Location: Finland, Lappeenranta
It looks a bit grey. You should ((at least try to)) manipulate colors as well, it could look better. But besides that, nice job.
Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
8,428 posts
Location: Wales
Did you have a brief on what you had to change or did you just think .... ah I'll make the weather change?
If there isn't a breif on exactly what you have to change I would say, why not instead of trying to change the weather, because as someone has already mentioned you have the lighting coming in from the wrong angle to do that and it would take an age to change it, why not take the original and remove everything from it that is modern. Take out the people, the fences, the telegraph pole and the house on the right. You might like to change the appearance of the fir trees too as they are a modern planted tree. Maybe look on-line for some pictures of old tools that the people that built the cairn would have used and cut and paste them in around it...as if the makers have gone off to have a rest. Maybe put in a small settlement of people in the back field. In other words try to take the picture back in time.
The picture as it stands now is dark, but not in a dramatic way, its more just as if someone didn't expose it correctly. Sorry if that sounds harsh but you did ask for opinions and thats mine. Having said that negative point I have to compliment you on your clouds. They really do look realistic.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
skully: there wasn't a brief, all i had to do was 'photo manipulation'. But I did go to my tutor with all my photos and this is what he suggested I do with the picture. I do like your suggestion, particularly as I've already tried to explore that with another series of six pics which I put together for the other half of the project (assembling a group of photos), as I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone, but I HAVE to do two seperate pictures apparently.
I'll have a go and see if I can maybe fix the lighting.
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503 posts
Location: bristol
lazy; the problem with the shading isn't the overall brightness, it's that the stones go from brighter to darker as they get closer. that is, it looks like there's a light-source in the background of the photo, where the rainclouds are.
having said that, i think it still looks cool
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Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
Ok well I've tried to adjust the light levels and details a bit. So what do you think of this one?
2nd edit
I have a horrible suspicion I may have gone too bright there...
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Location: bristol
i rather like that one, tbh
possibly a touch on the bright side, but it sorts the shading problem out
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Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
8,428 posts
Location: Wales
WOW way to bright.... now the rocks in the pile look like a litter heap because they have lost definition. The grass almost loks artificial now. Sorry I don't like it at all.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
ok well I've taken another image from earlier in the process, when it was a little bit darker you can see it here
yeah fair enough, even I thought that last one was too bright. I think maybe the grass and the large stone under the figure on the right might need darkening a little bit now...
Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant
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28 posts
Location: Finland, Lappeenranta
The large stone in front looks like copypasted, it doesn't fit to the picture now for some reason. Sky is beautiful. Grass looks odd some places. Too green, not natural.
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1,365 posts
Location: Manchester, England (UK)
Id say the sky looks too unnatural now, turn down the contrast a bit. Also the shading on the ground doesnt match the sky, it looks like a dark day in the sky and a sunny day on the ground. The shading on the ground in the origional looks closer to what it should be.
I would say-
Loose the high contrast sky, particulary behind the mountain as that really draws attention. keep the sky slightly higher contrast behind the people as this will draw peoples focus to them.
Burn the grass in the background slightly more
Put some of the contrast in the grass, its the flat tones of this that makes it look like the full sun is on it.
Decide what you want to be the focus point of the picture, at the moment it s the big stone in the forground. Changing the tones can change this. You might even want to add something, like maybe another person in the forground for example, that can give you something to draw the focus to. Or if you want the focus on the scenery then I'd say loose the people, they draw too much attention and confuse the eye. When editing the picture always think about how your actions affect how the eye moves across the picture.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
I've tried to put some of the contrast back into the picture, paticularly the shadows. 4th edit
Can't change the contents of the picture, my main concern is just sorting out the lighting/contrast/colour now..
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Sparkely arty Mormon rainbow fairy
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Location: infront of you, United Kingdom
very nice. i like this new one a lot.
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1,365 posts
Location: Manchester, England (UK)
Yep, that ones definately the best so far, very nice.
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