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Posted: 20th Jun 2005
The steatrix is a cross between a steve and a matrix hence the name thats the main one im bothered with. wha dja recon?

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Posted: 20th Jun 2005
the steatrix is one of my faves at the moment, altho i dont have a name for it, i just call it "that one"
along with quite a few others will get downloading now

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Posted: 20th Jun 2005
my one critcism is that the video wont work propperly for me at about 40 seconds it cuts out and leves you there with a most bemused look in your face and a hovering stick

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Kyle Mclean-
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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

Posted: 20th Jun 2005
I call it the matrix steve, cos bluecat does. But you can matrix from just about anywhere, I'd hate to have to name all the different entries with different names...

On the matrix steve, you have to get it on your opposite shoulder so it can roll down. You just fake out and do a couple of horizontal hand wraps. The first half was good though!

Wouldn't call it a elbow fishtail to halo, you seem to pop back out into normal fishies before doing the halo. Props on the elbow fishtail thou! Looks sweeeeeeet

Then the video failed. It's actually only 4.8 mb .... not quite 50.

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Posted: 20th Jun 2005
Right should work now (also sorry for the half nakedness it was bloody hot)
EDITED_BY: -sandy- (1119343493)

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005
Yeah! 50 megs!

Right yes you do a beautiful elbow fishtail, but you pop out into half a beat of a normal fishtail before doing the halo, so it's not elbow fishtail to halo, it's elbow fishtail then halo.

Full steve half matrix = accurate description.

Angel wings: Was just an Angel Roll, as baton twirlers call it.

Steve Full neck wrap to the one above. Yeah, probly correct description, it's just a half matrix could go into a full steve at like 4 different points...

Front pass shoulder to shoulder:

Looks like a Throatside turning SNES to me. Can't quite tell if you're missing a should on the first half.... Hard to say.

Fishtails: NIccccccccceeeeeeeee....

Full steve to steve. But yeah, that's what it is. With a bit of turning...

Steatrix matrix. Didn't go up the second arm and then back down it (the steve bit). But the matrix was much better than the first steatrix.

5 beat reverse fishtails: I'll leave that for the ninja to decide./

then I got bored.

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005
steatrix - try and get it to come round your neck more you will have more control in the second half. with the second half try to get it to come around your arm pit rather than rolling up your tricep. the second half should be a mirror of the first half.

elbow fishtails - the elbow positions need to be 180 degrees for it to work at the moment it looks like they are about 150 the extra 30 will make a big difference

full steve - try to get it to actually come in to roll across your neck

angel wings = angel roll

steve neck wrap full steve matrix - the first move looks like a steve with a neck propeller in teh middle try doing it without the neck spin and moving your body around so that your neck makes a propeller like with devil sticks.

front pass shoulder to shoulder roll = jesus
- try steping alone a line rather than pivoting on the spot you wont fall over yourself so much. it rolls down your arm at the end because your not turning fast enough to give the stick your shoulder to roll over

360 fishtails/bodywrap fishtails - i would call it fishtail passing

full steve to steve - try it without the neck spin, your plane is really nice until u go for the second steve which is why it loses control

Steatrix Matrix = steve entry into matrix

5 beat reverse fishtails - looks like a inverted fishtail fountain opened outwards instead of upwards, you can bring it back in for an extra inverted beat at the end

fishtail throws - try not to lean forward when catching the throw

christ roll - not sure exactly what your going for there, can kinda see it looks very awkward

corkscrew fishtails - looks cool

ive given the alternative names other ppl have called em theres thread floating around the place

id suggest trying everything with your feet planted solidly to help u isolate the movement so that you can then incorperate footwork for style rather than to compensate so the stick doesnt fall on the ground. overall it looks like uv got some cool contact happening imho u just need to refine it so its more of an interaction between you and the stick rather than the stick forcing you round if that makes sense.

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005
Hey Sandy

sweet little vid man, some good terminology me finx, its hard to name moves like that i rekon, mainly because there are soooo many variations of matrix and steves avaiable..........

Loved them all - was waiting for an antispun matrix to pop up though

Great staffage none the less

Was funny as i sota come up woth the stevetrix in ireland at the weekend, then i come here and see youve got it too

Look forward to more of the same dude

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005
cheers guys

knew those angel rolls had another name been trying to get the throw in since i saw bluecat a couple weeks ago at birmingham cirus convention.

REALLY apreciate the feed back

i dont have many people round here that do contact so im kinda left to my own devices with coming up with stuff apart from meets.

couple of questions:

what does SNES stand for? i get the move but dont know the terminology and whats a fishtail fountain?

the christ roll i learnt off tim at october sheffield pip/hop and he had a nice switch into neck spins that i havn't got down yet. was wondering if anyone had any other variations? ive thought of into matrix but cant do it yet anything else?
EDITED_BY: -sandy- (1119381162)

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005
SNES = Shoulder NEck Shoulder.

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005

Written by: -sandy-

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couple of questions:
what does SNES stand for? i get the move but dont know the terminology and whats a fishtail fountain?

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Posted: 30th Jun 2005
I thought I came up with the stevetrix at falmouth 3 arr well these things seem to happen too often to be that surprised

p.s. I agree with people that the move in the vid is only a half stevetrix cos it doesn't come back down the right arm round that arm pit then up the other side

p.s.s. Afew tips to make your staffing look as good as it is, work on you footwork (bend your knees take definate steps don't suffel), blance and centre (often meaning keep your back straight and head up). also try to make all your moves flow so they're the least effort possible (repetion, repetion, repetion)

Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ct