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Written by: DeepSoulSheep
Wow!
My favourite quotes from media links
"raid police seized weapons and drugs, including marijuana, ecstasy, psychadelic mushrooms, cocaine and alcohol" - did I mention weapons?
and this great closing paragraph...
"Police also confiscated counterfeit currency at the event and encountered a 17-year old who had overdosed on ecstasy. "
When first reading this my initial reaction was that it must've been next to a secret army base or somthing...
I hope enough publicity can be generated from this to stop in happening again... though me impression on Utah is probably more liberal than it really is....
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I wanted to reply to an email written to an Alex from the UK about the Rave that was torn to shreds by Utah County law enforcement. I want you to know up front that I did not attend this party, but I am concerned for my own safety in the future. I spent two years licensed as an armed security officer, and I’ve worked security at more raves than I can count. I’ve [/size]confiscated more drugs than I can even begin to name. I’ve also turned over ALL of the drugs I’ve ever confiscated to local law enforcement. I’ve been hearing that they arrested the security officers from the party for possession of drugs and paraphernalia. Of course they’re going to have stuff on them!! They were searching cars at the gate, as I’ve personally done many times. Often security officers will catch things, put them in a pocket and keep searching. At the end of the night the material was handed over to myself or my partner to be turned into the police. This particular issue has me concerned because I do not have the resources to fight the justice system if this kind of thing happens again. By arresting the security officers, they make it THAT much harder to find GOOD security people, who are honest and want to make a difference in the Rave community. So promoters are forced to settle for lower quality people, and more things make it into the parties. It’s a vicious cycle that the police departments themselves are starting. They want the drugs off the street, leave us alone, let us do our jobs, and they’ll see results. I got out of doing Rave security because someone in our team violated our rules and trust, and nearly got us all arrested for his stupidity. I’ve only recently began doing security again and passed up this particular party because I already had plans. This is only the beginning of what has gotten me so concerned.
I did security at a party called SEQUENCE in the middle of July, and as I was heading home I was harassed by Utah County Sheriffs Deputies waiting at the bottom of the hill for us. They pulled me over for a “burned out license plate light” which was their excuse for at least another DOZEN or so vehicles leaving the party. They asked me if I was on drugs or had been drinking, and I was wearing Military BDU’s, with a name tape with my last name on my right breast, and SECURITY on a tape on my left breast. I was also wearing a black baseball hat that said SECURITY across it. He asked me quite snidely if I were on “military operations” up at the party, and I simply told him I’d been working security for the party, and which he sneered and laughed at. He told me to warn the promoters that the next party WOULD get shut down, threw my license and registration in my lap, turned around and walked away. This act in itself tells me that this has been in the works for quite some time. They were obviously upset that they did not have the man power to shut Sequence down and came at the promoter of THIS party with a vengeance.
My next issue is the brutality by the police. I’ve seen video of people being taken down at the party, police dogs SNAPPING at scared, unarmed individuals. I don’t know if anyone has provided you a link to this video, but I’d be happy to forward to it if you’d like. This kind of behavior by the police is amazing to me. With the police we’d like to expect that they’ll behave with professionalism, integrity, and empathy. I laugh as I see the news report of all these alleged “near fatal shootings” at raves, as I’d worked them for two years, and NEVER had to draw a firearm, and I never even felt that I was in danger. Sure, I’ve taken people into custody and waited for the police to come pick them up, sure I’ve broken up fights, but in all honestly the majority of the people who attend these parties are peaceful people, who don’t want drama, don’t want fights, they just want to go to a party, dance as hard as they can to the music that moves their souls. Absolute brutality to these kind of people outrages me to no limit. I expected that the police would shut down another party, which is not even the issue, it’s the way they handled themselves. I never would have imagined that they would be recruiting SWAT teams to handle these people. I can see calling SWAT on a Rap show where they’re going off about rape, murder, drugs and money. I don’t even see why you would need to be recruiting K9 units to break up a rave. They had helicopters overhead with infrared cameras, so you can’t even say that they needed it to be able to find someone that took off running. I think that the addition of K9’s to SWAT for a rave, is completely uncalled for and SEVERE overkill. I don’t know how familiar you are with electronic music, but most of it doesn’t even have lyrics. And never have I heard any that endorses drug abuse, rape, violence like the police ACT like it induces. Sure, in ANY music gathering you have, you will have drug use of some sort. People see the Grateful dead, and they smoke weed, do acid and whatever else floats their boat. You go see Snoop Dogg, you have people Smoking weed like there’s no tomorrow. I mean, the only music you can go to without finding people abusing drugs in one form or another would be things like Classical, Opera, and Yanni or Enya. Even then, half the classical composers wrote their music while drunk or hopped up on drugs. Drugs and music will inevitably forever be linked together in some way shape or form. It’s one of those sad things that we’re powerless to change, no matter how we try.
The Police stated that there was a 17 year old girl who had overdosed on ecstasy that they found, not the promoters, and they said the girl was treated on site, and released to her parents. I’m sorry, but when you’ve overdosed on a drug, it typically requires hospitalization for at least 6 hours. You don’t just “treat” an overdose on site. Not only that, but MDMA itself is VERY hard to overdose on because it causes the neural receptors to be flooded with serotonin, a chemical in the brain, produced by the brain. It’s all the other dirty stuff floating around that she would have been overdosed on, and I can tell you a methamphetamine overdose is NOT something that an EMT can treat with water. You see, with Ecstasy, there is MDMA which is the primary component, but its non-cohesive. It can not on its own be pressed into a pill. So drug makers combine it with things from cocaine, to meth, to lord knows what else. That in itself is what makes taking Ecstasy so dangerous. You NEVER know what the other components are, nor do you know the quantity of what you’re taking. So honestly, I have to call the Sheriffs office’s bluff on the alleged Overdose.
In closing, I want to thank you for enduring my two page letter as to my outrage and concern regarding this entire fiasco. The police departments are looking at MANY law suits, and I pray to God that they are held accountable for the severe lack of good judgment displayed by City officials, Police administrators, and the officers themselves. I hope you take this community seriously, and help us have our cry heard loud and clear by ALL law enforcement agencies that have sensationalized our community to the very outer limits of the truth. Please make our voices be heard, and please act with the very integrity, honor, and professionalism that we all hope will be given to this ordeal.
Sincerely,
Sean.
P.S. I’m 25 years old. I’m hardly a “kid” as the law enforcement community refers to us.
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Dreamin is still how the strong survive
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Can you not feel the way the wind is blowing dave? This story, Guantanimo Bay, the USA Patriot Act, ID cards, the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, do you not think that this is all getting increasingly scary increasingly quickly?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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Written by: Pyrolific
wow - I cant help but draw comparison between this and what happened at Czechtech this year... at least no-one died at this one.
Czechtech link;
https://scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/1980/index.php
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