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Ok one last rant before i go off for the night.
Free school dinners. As a single parent we get free school dinners as the government realsie we can not afford to feed the children ourselves by sending in sandwhiches or giving them money for the cafe. So why is it that during the school holidays we get no extra help? I honestly wish i could sit here and say that i am happy with what i feed my kids but i am not. I can not feed them a nice healthy balanced diet all the time, it just costs far too much money. Ok saying that i do my best. In the holidays my fruit and veg costs go up from £30 per week to around £60.. or at least they would if i could afford it.
Don't even get me started on school uniforms. i agree with them yes but how the hell do they expect us to find the extra money. Many people say "get a job" i do have a job i am a Mother, and for me to justify getting another job i would need a high paid one that was term time only and didn't mind me taking time off when the kids are ill and from experiance the chances of that happening is more than slim.
There is a letter on its way to my local MP about the school dinner situation as i know so many parents who are in the same position
Ok one last rant before i go off for the night.
Free school dinners. As a single parent we get free school dinners as the government realsie we can not afford to feed the children ourselves by sending in sandwhiches or giving them money for the cafe. So why is it that during the school holidays we get no extra help? I honestly wish i could sit here and say that i am happy with what i feed my kids but i am not. I can not feed them a nice healthy balanced diet all the time, it just costs far too much money. Ok saying that i do my best. In the holidays my fruit and veg costs go up from £30 per week to around £60.. or at least they would if i could afford it.
Don't even get me started on school uniforms. i agree with them yes but how the hell do they expect us to find the extra money. Many people say "get a job" i do have a job i am a Mother, and for me to justify getting another job i would need a high paid one that was term time only and didn't mind me taking time off when the kids are ill and from experiance the chances of that happening is more than slim.
There is a letter on its way to my local MP about the school dinner situation as i know so many parents who are in the same position
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Posted:
Taking money from parents (through taxes) in order to provide children with "free" lunches just makes the government into an unneeded middleman to do the shopping for you. I bet you could do a better job if they just let you keep your money and buy food for your own kids.
Do like we American have done. Vote for people who will lower your taxes.
Taking money from parents (through taxes) in order to provide children with "free" lunches just makes the government into an unneeded middleman to do the shopping for you. I bet you could do a better job if they just let you keep your money and buy food for your own kids.
Do like we American have done. Vote for people who will lower your taxes.
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P917 - some of us would rather pay higher taxes for social services outlined above by gothfrogette...
goth - you make a good point - a letter to your local member is also a good idea.
we have some schools here in oz that feed breakkie to the kids...we've just finished our school holidays, and it makes me wonder what happens here...
P917 - some of us would rather pay higher taxes for social services outlined above by gothfrogette...
goth - you make a good point - a letter to your local member is also a good idea.
we have some schools here in oz that feed breakkie to the kids...we've just finished our school holidays, and it makes me wonder what happens here...
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There are schemes here that do breakfast too and that also worries me.
I have no problem paying the taxes that i do and the system over here is quite different from that in the states. I am not sure about the policies in Oz with regards social security benifits.
The way free school dinners work over here is that each child is alocated £1.50 per day.The price isn't just for food alone and thoses of you in the UK who remember the Mr Oliver series only about 38p-48p of the money goes on the food the rest is for over heads.
another gripe of mine is the portion sizes are the same for ALL children. This is unless the school contract out a seperate catereer offering a cafe approach to the dinners when then the food is priced up at a 'reasonable' price. This may seem well and good until you realise that it means a child of 4 on free school dinners is allocated the same as a child of 15 !!
My mother who works as a school catereer shares the same gripes as i do and the quality of the food is as best as they can do on that type of money, but the children are given a fairly nice meal where there are choices for all sorts of healthy food now.
There are schemes here that do breakfast too and that also worries me.
I have no problem paying the taxes that i do and the system over here is quite different from that in the states. I am not sure about the policies in Oz with regards social security benifits.
The way free school dinners work over here is that each child is alocated £1.50 per day.The price isn't just for food alone and thoses of you in the UK who remember the Mr Oliver series only about 38p-48p of the money goes on the food the rest is for over heads.
another gripe of mine is the portion sizes are the same for ALL children. This is unless the school contract out a seperate catereer offering a cafe approach to the dinners when then the food is priced up at a 'reasonable' price. This may seem well and good until you realise that it means a child of 4 on free school dinners is allocated the same as a child of 15 !!
My mother who works as a school catereer shares the same gripes as i do and the quality of the food is as best as they can do on that type of money, but the children are given a fairly nice meal where there are choices for all sorts of healthy food now.
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we pay taxes and that money is used to fund our welfare system. If you need it, you can tap into it, if not, you just contribute through taxes to the safety net for people. Very different to the states I think...
gothfrogette, you really have me thinking about the breakfasts and lunches in school holidays...
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Written by: GothFrogette
I have no problem paying the taxes that i do and the system over here is quite different from that in the states. I am not sure about the policies in Oz with regards social security benifits.
we pay taxes and that money is used to fund our welfare system. If you need it, you can tap into it, if not, you just contribute through taxes to the safety net for people. Very different to the states I think...
gothfrogette, you really have me thinking about the breakfasts and lunches in school holidays...
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Sounds just like the way things work here, as far as taxes go.
I like the idea of letting parents spend the money themselves, eliminating the "overhead" and allowing them to tailor the portion size to the needs of their particular child.
Then again, I plan to homeschool my children. They are too valuable to me to turn over to be raised by the government. "One size fits all" doesn't work any better for education than it does for meal portion sizes.
Sounds just like the way things work here, as far as taxes go.
I like the idea of letting parents spend the money themselves, eliminating the "overhead" and allowing them to tailor the portion size to the needs of their particular child.
Then again, I plan to homeschool my children. They are too valuable to me to turn over to be raised by the government. "One size fits all" doesn't work any better for education than it does for meal portion sizes.
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I never understand why so much always seems to go to "overheads". Can anyone engighten me?
I never understand why so much always seems to go to "overheads". Can anyone engighten me?
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If you want someone to come get your money, go buy food for your kid, cook it up, and serve it to them, you have to pay them for their trouble. I suppose this is what they call "overhead."
If you want someone to come get your money, go buy food for your kid, cook it up, and serve it to them, you have to pay them for their trouble. I suppose this is what they call "overhead."
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but it seems the school canteen is doing it anyway, which means the people are volunteers and the food already there?
but it seems the school canteen is doing it anyway, which means the people are volunteers and the food already there?
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In accounting terms, overheads are things that indirectly contribute to the product or service. For example, for most businesses rent, electricity and water are all overheads. And yes, the costs are usually quite high.
Basically they are things that you cannot do without, but are not direct inputs like ingredients or labour. The other aspect is that they are generally fixed (or mixed) costs, so it doesn't really matter how many meals you serve the cost of maintaining the building will still say pretty much the same.
One of the basic principles of accounting is that a cost should be allocated against the income item. So even though the canteen may "already be there", a portion of the overheads required to run the canteen must be allocated against the income stream related to school breakfasts. Otherwise the true cost of the project would be hidden. This would be bad in the long term as people could justify reducing the funding based on this inaccurate information.
*takes off rarely used accounting hat*
One of the important ideas behind these sorts of projects is that it takes a community to raise a child. I find this a bit scary, as I don't really plan on having kids. However I recognise that I probably have some sort of stake in future generations. (I don't want ones that will hit back when I whack them with my walking stick.
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I never understand why so much always seems to go to "overheads". Can anyone engighten me?
In accounting terms, overheads are things that indirectly contribute to the product or service. For example, for most businesses rent, electricity and water are all overheads. And yes, the costs are usually quite high.
Basically they are things that you cannot do without, but are not direct inputs like ingredients or labour. The other aspect is that they are generally fixed (or mixed) costs, so it doesn't really matter how many meals you serve the cost of maintaining the building will still say pretty much the same.
One of the basic principles of accounting is that a cost should be allocated against the income item. So even though the canteen may "already be there", a portion of the overheads required to run the canteen must be allocated against the income stream related to school breakfasts. Otherwise the true cost of the project would be hidden. This would be bad in the long term as people could justify reducing the funding based on this inaccurate information.
*takes off rarely used accounting hat*
One of the important ideas behind these sorts of projects is that it takes a community to raise a child. I find this a bit scary, as I don't really plan on having kids. However I recognise that I probably have some sort of stake in future generations. (I don't want ones that will hit back when I whack them with my walking stick.
) It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
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Rouge, Some cross-cultural differences here:
In Australia, school canteens sell reasonably priced fairly fresh sandwiches,pies etc of varying standards to those kids who don't bring their own, and are usually staffed by a roster of volunteer parents (read..mums). As more mums work it is more difficult to staff them and many schools now have a paid overseer/orderer. But it is a directly user-pays system
In US and UK schools more often provide meals from centralised budgets to nearly all kids, with a sit down dining room...paid staff..a more expensive way of doing it. The standard is often not great... frozen foods etc.. I think it was Ronald Reagan who classified tomato ketchup as a vegetable...
Patriarch, a parent who is on social security or very low income will be paying negligible or no tax and so there is no 'tax saving' to be had/reinvested in food for kids..
And as for home schooling... this works great unless you want to have a job... it is very very hard to work AND homeschool (I tried it). The other way is to have and support a wife/husband who does not work. Goth Frogette and other single parents do not have this option. And underlying her situation is the way the UK social security system financially penalises 'welfare' parents who work rather than encouraging it by eg allowing a certain amount of income before reducing benefit (as the Oz system does). I think this is a hangover from the days of high unemployment. Sidelining single parents was a way of reducing those 'looking' for work.
Rouge, Some cross-cultural differences here:
In Australia, school canteens sell reasonably priced fairly fresh sandwiches,pies etc of varying standards to those kids who don't bring their own, and are usually staffed by a roster of volunteer parents (read..mums). As more mums work it is more difficult to staff them and many schools now have a paid overseer/orderer. But it is a directly user-pays system
In US and UK schools more often provide meals from centralised budgets to nearly all kids, with a sit down dining room...paid staff..a more expensive way of doing it. The standard is often not great... frozen foods etc.. I think it was Ronald Reagan who classified tomato ketchup as a vegetable...
Patriarch, a parent who is on social security or very low income will be paying negligible or no tax and so there is no 'tax saving' to be had/reinvested in food for kids..
And as for home schooling... this works great unless you want to have a job... it is very very hard to work AND homeschool (I tried it). The other way is to have and support a wife/husband who does not work. Goth Frogette and other single parents do not have this option. And underlying her situation is the way the UK social security system financially penalises 'welfare' parents who work rather than encouraging it by eg allowing a certain amount of income before reducing benefit (as the Oz system does). I think this is a hangover from the days of high unemployment. Sidelining single parents was a way of reducing those 'looking' for work.
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hold on one minute ok
i am a mother and i work and i find it a lot better
government pay tax credits which works out more than income support plus you get chiildcare paid for resulting in not having to worry about school holidays
im a single working mother in the uk earning minimum wage but on about 1500 a month after tax credits and wages. this covers my bills, childcare is paid 70% leaving me paying around 40 a week extra, theres a lot of good childminders out there and they include school runs and feeding kids and taking them out ect, the downfall is i pay rent and council tax but i know the prices are a lot lower up in the midlands as i lived same place as gothfroggette myself to what iit is down here. low band council tax is 140 here,
the thing government do wrong is not show what is out there for single parents and the oppotunities they have, for months i sat on another website complaining i had no money to afford anything, that i was in debt, and i got slated and told to get a job, when complaining that it would be worse i was pointed out that most the childcare benefits you get and tax credits ect mount up and work out a lot more than what you get on benefits alone.
now im not slating anyone as i know what its like being a mother but going back to work was the best thing i ever did, and with the help you get now it is well worth it
god i even got 250 quid jus for getting a job tax free and non repayable back to work grant and they pay for any clothes u need for interviews and stuff
plus you get help like travel passes and stuff whilst ur seeking work so things cost wise get cut a great deal again.
there is a lot of pro's to going back to work.
hold on one minute ok
i am a mother and i work and i find it a lot better
government pay tax credits which works out more than income support plus you get chiildcare paid for resulting in not having to worry about school holidays
im a single working mother in the uk earning minimum wage but on about 1500 a month after tax credits and wages. this covers my bills, childcare is paid 70% leaving me paying around 40 a week extra, theres a lot of good childminders out there and they include school runs and feeding kids and taking them out ect, the downfall is i pay rent and council tax but i know the prices are a lot lower up in the midlands as i lived same place as gothfroggette myself to what iit is down here. low band council tax is 140 here,
the thing government do wrong is not show what is out there for single parents and the oppotunities they have, for months i sat on another website complaining i had no money to afford anything, that i was in debt, and i got slated and told to get a job, when complaining that it would be worse i was pointed out that most the childcare benefits you get and tax credits ect mount up and work out a lot more than what you get on benefits alone.
now im not slating anyone as i know what its like being a mother but going back to work was the best thing i ever did, and with the help you get now it is well worth it
god i even got 250 quid jus for getting a job tax free and non repayable back to work grant and they pay for any clothes u need for interviews and stuff
plus you get help like travel passes and stuff whilst ur seeking work so things cost wise get cut a great deal again.
there is a lot of pro's to going back to work.
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Labor government policy = pretty much "Get a job or FOAD".
For anyone not able to work, the letters you get from the DWP say it all. "This is how much the government says you need to live". To live, not to have a life or any quality of life.
I'd like a job, but there just isn't any kind of support out there for a lot of disabled/differently-abled people, and believe me both myself and my parents have been looking for years. Instead I'm having to save what little I can from benefits, to invest in setting up my own business, so that I can work in a manner that suits me, and keep from being driven insane with boredom and getting more depressed.
Labor government policy = pretty much "Get a job or FOAD".
For anyone not able to work, the letters you get from the DWP say it all. "This is how much the government says you need to live". To live, not to have a life or any quality of life.
I'd like a job, but there just isn't any kind of support out there for a lot of disabled/differently-abled people, and believe me both myself and my parents have been looking for years. Instead I'm having to save what little I can from benefits, to invest in setting up my own business, so that I can work in a manner that suits me, and keep from being driven insane with boredom and getting more depressed.
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im sure there is plenty of oppotunities
you just need to put your foot down and not take no for an answer
trust me on that
i know someone who was very poorly from her past and she was told by the job center she was better off staying on benefits. she told them where to stick it, got a good job and got the woman at the job center fired
she is disabled or was, bit i will not go into detail at all as it is her personal business
im sure there is plenty of oppotunities
you just need to put your foot down and not take no for an answer
trust me on that
i know someone who was very poorly from her past and she was told by the job center she was better off staying on benefits. she told them where to stick it, got a good job and got the woman at the job center fired
she is disabled or was, bit i will not go into detail at all as it is her personal business
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The problem with the health service/social services is that they only provide support to a limited range of disabilities (those where they can easily get people back into work), or those where they have a pretty good chance of curing that disability.
The state of those services in my county is such that there is f**k all support for someone with my condition, and because of that condition I can't easily cope with hassling the said services into doing anything.
The problem with the health service/social services is that they only provide support to a limited range of disabilities (those where they can easily get people back into work), or those where they have a pretty good chance of curing that disability.
The state of those services in my county is such that there is f**k all support for someone with my condition, and because of that condition I can't easily cope with hassling the said services into doing anything.
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dani_babyboo thats great if you can go back to work and that is not an option for me and isn't an option for alotof others too.
polarity you hit it right on the head
dani_babyboo thats great if you can go back to work and that is not an option for me and isn't an option for alotof others too.
polarity you hit it right on the head
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i dont understand why it isnt an option gothfroggette
i mean 2 years ago i was suffering with agrophobia
had suffered with it for a long long time
i didnt go anywhere, not even to my sons school which is why my dad ended up caring for my eldest. i was trapped in my own home
it was by personal choice and wanting a better future for my children that i forced myself to get better and went back into work
there is a lot of options to helping ppl though, im not having a go at all just trying to point out there is other option if you look for them, theres home working, you can do college courses free and get childcare paid for that, your so good with kids look into childcare
childminders get loads of money and you can do it at home and work from home and have your own children involved.
what im trying to say is dont let the government drag you down, go out and grab at what ever oppotunity you can, it maybe a struggle from the start but i promise what ever you want is out there and you can do it
i dont understand why it isnt an option gothfroggette
i mean 2 years ago i was suffering with agrophobia
had suffered with it for a long long time
i didnt go anywhere, not even to my sons school which is why my dad ended up caring for my eldest. i was trapped in my own home
it was by personal choice and wanting a better future for my children that i forced myself to get better and went back into work
there is a lot of options to helping ppl though, im not having a go at all just trying to point out there is other option if you look for them, theres home working, you can do college courses free and get childcare paid for that, your so good with kids look into childcare
childminders get loads of money and you can do it at home and work from home and have your own children involved.
what im trying to say is dont let the government drag you down, go out and grab at what ever oppotunity you can, it maybe a struggle from the start but i promise what ever you want is out there and you can do it
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oh i know your not having a go at me every one is different, have different problems,issues and handles things differently but getting a job just is not an option for me, for a quite a few reasons and i don't see why it should be a case of making a choice between working and dedicating the time i want to my children.
oh i know your not having a go at me
every one is different, have different problems,issues and handles things differently but getting a job just is not an option for me, for a quite a few reasons and i don't see why it should be a case of making a choice between working and dedicating the time i want to my children. Life's too short to worry about where you put your marshmallows
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maybe do a home college course or something to occupy yourself and go towards something for when your boys are older,
im awaiitng news on 2 new jobs ive gone from being a sandwhich maker in a subway which lets face it is as bad as working in mcdonalds, to being a supervisor there and now i have a good chance if i pass an assessment as unit manager of a threshers store
ive also applied for the PCSO's which is a huge step for me
but at the end of the day the government wont give any more money for the fact theres too many who are living off government funding who dont need it.
maybe do a home college course or something to occupy yourself and go towards something for when your boys are older,
im awaiitng news on 2 new jobs ive gone from being a sandwhich maker in a subway which lets face it is as bad as working in mcdonalds, to being a supervisor there and now i have a good chance if i pass an assessment as unit manager of a threshers store
ive also applied for the PCSO's which is a huge step for me
but at the end of the day the government wont give any more money for the fact theres too many who are living off government funding who dont need it.
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yeah i am done with college courses, Hell UNI about killed me... literlly. But we are not here to say whether i should get a job or go into more education.
the facts are that what we are given isn't not enough and they recognise this in one hand and dismiss it in the other
yeah i am done with college courses, Hell UNI about killed me... literlly. But we are not here to say whether i should get a job or go into more education.
the facts are that what we are given isn't not enough and they recognise this in one hand and dismiss it in the other
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It seems that many other women in your position are forced to find work to provide food for their children. It doesn't make it right, it doesn't make it fair. It's unfortunate that your children are in this position but you are truely the only one that can save them from it. I wish them the best of luck.
Written by: GothFrogette
Many people say "get a job" i do have a job i am a Mother, and for me to justify getting another job i would need a high paid one that was term time only and didn't mind me taking time off when the kids are ill and from experiance the chances of that happening is more than slim.
It seems that many other women in your position are forced to find work to provide food for their children. It doesn't make it right, it doesn't make it fair. It's unfortunate that your children are in this position but you are truely the only one that can save them from it. I wish them the best of luck.
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Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom
Posted:
We just about get by now. My kids never go without the things they need it would just be nice to pay bills and be able to feed them. kids come first bills come last. i am not going to be getting a job for a very long time so will have to put up with this like i have done over the past 13 ish years of being on benefits of one kind or another.
And even if i was to start looking for work its not going to help me now or the rest of the parents in exactly the same position.
We just about get by now. My kids never go without the things they need it would just be nice to pay bills and be able to feed them. kids come first bills come last. i am not going to be getting a job for a very long time so will have to put up with this like i have done over the past 13 ish years of being on benefits of one kind or another.
And even if i was to start looking for work its not going to help me now or the rest of the parents in exactly the same position.
Life's too short to worry about where you put your marshmallows
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
How so? There are certainly many single parent success stories.
Written by: GothFrogette
And even if i was to start looking for work its not going to help me now or the rest of the parents in exactly the same position.
How so? There are certainly many single parent success stories.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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grumpy poorly froggy
3,999 posts
Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom
grumpy poorly froggy
3,999 posts
Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom
Posted:
as in the amediate situation rather than long term. sorry been up for far too long i should of explained what i meant better. (my youngest had been playing Pirates since 5 am)
as in the amediate situation rather than long term. sorry been up for far too long i should of explained what i meant better. (my youngest had been playing Pirates since 5 am)
Life's too short to worry about where you put your marshmallows
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